Multiway 3BP
Posted by Kruzer20
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Kruzer20
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Low Stakes
Multiway 3BP
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BN: $25.42
SB: $33.62
BB: $25.14
UTG: $25.00
MP: $39.17
CO: $30.68 (Hero)
SB: $33.62
BB: $25.14
UTG: $25.00
MP: $39.17
CO: $30.68 (Hero)
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is CO with
J
K
, , , , , ,
Flop
($9.10)
2
8
J
, ,
Turn
($19.60)
2
8
J
J
,
River
($53.24)
2
8
J
J
4
Final Pot
BB wins $51.10
Rake is $2.00
Rake is $2.00
Hello.I use mixed strat with this holding sometimes call sometimes 3B.I was wondering can we call this flop size vs 2 players given that 1 for sure has overpair or better we are getting kinda break even odds i am for sure calling with BDFD but wasnt sure about this.Also calculating the ranges 3 way now im guessing we should of folded pre its 23-24% eq and we need 25% given the rake should i folded i think.Thoughts?
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How do you know that, villains are both smart regs? Probably because you have seen the showdown :P.
Anyway, unless they are both smart, I don't think you can discount other holding.
The board will be pretty dynamic and switch equity pretty easily, so we should see raises from strongest hands, so meh, you can be beat but not as 100% as you think imo
Anyway, let's say we see the cards and someone got QQ+.
Against QQ, if another J hits I don't really know whether you have implied odds, since it should slow the action by a lot.
If a K comes, you beat QQ but again dunno whether you get more money in, you cooler AA but it's unlikely he GII with it.
For me, if you put any villain on an overpair and you think he isn't going to fold, you gotta fold.
But I'm a fish and I'm waiting for other, more competent replies
I mean i get your point in theory they should have some bluffs but dont think pool plays like that.Its 3 way+UTG calls 3bettors big cbet meaning he wont have weak holdings and its a 50% bet not a 33% that he can peel wider even tho he shouldnt cuz he has to worry about me behind but yea u get the point.I think id call if i had switched places with UTG because he would have so many PPs that miss...but probably wouldnt happen cuz i wouldnt call KJs in that spot vs BB squeeze.So idk really lol.
I don't understand the flop play. If you fold top pair second kicker here, what exactly are you calling?
Also, putting the Villain on an overpair is way too tight. People can go nuts with AK for sure. If you really think the Villains are so tight, just fold this hand preflop and call instead with pocket pairs.
I think you have to call flop at least. You are IP and have to put in 5 to win about 20 plus some implied odds, so you only need 25% or so equity. If BB keeps betting a brick turn and UTG calls again, then folding is reasonable.
I would add... if he would comtemplate a fold it means he basically stack off on boards where he flops 2p+ and this doesn't happen offen, so imho if he folds OTF he's better off folding pre
Easy i have FDs,OESDS,AJs(more eq than KJ we can beat KKs for example),88,JJ(that i dont 3 bet pre some low %),22(if i think blinds are weak)...Id for sure call AJ here or KJ with BDFD...the problem is the sizing is way to big if we call the flop we have to stack off turn on a brick.Also ppl dont think in terms of ranges on 25-50 zoom i can guarantee u one of them has overpair or nut FD at best...i mean its 3 way +50% cbet sizing this is abc reg playstyle
Assuming Villain always has an overpair (QQ+) (an assumption I don't agree with), KhJh has 17% equity, while AJs has 19% equity (heads up). Is this enough of a difference for you to fold one hand and call the other?
i think i'd fold pre. this hand will often struggle to navigate postflop (as seen here) and there won't be many boards you're happy to get money in. even when you make top pair you're oftentimes dominated by bb's/utg's extremely strong ranges which includes a ton of AK. the only thing going for us is our position which makes me want to call a bit more but really wouldn't be excited about it
Yh i called only cuz of IP and postflop edge imo as they were kinda abc regs
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