marginal TP after squeeze
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marginal TP after squeeze
SB: $34.18
BB: $25 (Hero)
UTG: $25
HJ: $25
CO: $15.30
BN: $39.02
BB: $25 (Hero)
UTG: $25
HJ: $25
CO: $15.30
BN: $39.02
MP 20/17 over 90 hands
SB 37/19
SB 37/19
Preflop
($0.35)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
7
T
UTG folds, HJ raises to $0.75, CO folds, BN folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero raises to $2.80, HJ calls $2.05, SB folds
UTG folds, HJ raises to $0.75, CO folds, BN folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero raises to $2.80, HJ calls $2.05, SB folds
Flop
($6.60)
T
4
6
(2 Players)
I must have been fairly in line pre, otherwise I'd just have folded there. I guess this is a std b/f to protec vs his AQ, AJ, KQ type hands and maybe even get a call now and then from 99, 88, otherwise just fold vs TT+ and big draws. I'd be somewhat lost on the turn though, especially when it brings more texture like a heart or an overcard. Do we ship hearts and bricks and hope that he floated AQ? Do we c/f most overs? What on a 3rd spade?
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The squeeze seems pretty out of line almost regardless of your image. Once we get here I'd start by checking the flop unless you believe villain is going to play incredibly straight forwardly and you can just bet/fold with a small sizing or bet/check it down.
If you bet the flop you are leaving yourself with a lot of tough turn decisions in a big pot OOP on spades and broadway cards and not knowing whether to turn your hand into a bluff or force some sort of showdown
Checking the flop allows us to control the size of the pot and if he stabs with hands like AK/AQ they are probably gonna shut down if they miss (general 25nl - unless he's agro) when you x/c the flop.
Leaving you with much easier decisions when you check to him and see how he reacts to broadways and 3rd spades :)
Why is squeezing so out of line? I'd overcall T9s, T8s here to play multiway with the fish but T7s seems to bad for that so I decided to turn it into a mostly preflop bluff. Sure, a 20/17 won't open that loosely from MP but with the dead money from the fish, I think I might already get close to autoprofiting preflop cause it only needs to work 43% of the time?!
I agree that the turn will be tough to play if we bet the flop but so will it be if we check and he bets or (admittedly slightly less so) if he checks back and the turn is a Q. Would you also keep calling down on bricks or what's your general plan with checking then?
This squeeze is out of line because when you're called/raised you lose more than when you autoprofit. And your own post is a brilliant example of that.
I won't deny that I'll end up in quite some marginal and tough spots postflop but asking about the correct way to play them doesn't necessarily mean the 3b itself is bad. With this argumentation you could also question squeezing QQ because it will be marginal and tough to play on AKx or T98 monotone.
So why don't you squeeze any two then? You can 3b w/ AA and find yourself in a tough spot postflop; that's not the point. The point is that with T7s you're doing just terrible against calling range and will be prone to lose and make mistakes postflop.
It also sounds somewhat natural that T7s doesn't play very well vs a (tight) calling range - that's the nature of a (preflop)bluff. So if T7s is that terrible of a 3bet, do you have a bluffing range at all in that spot? How does it looke like? What makes the potential hands in it that much better than T7s?
Against EP open and what looks like recreational player I would not expect to get a lot of folds squeezing, so I wouldn't sqz that much at all. But as you can't really call that much in this spot anyway (beeing OOP against tight MP opening range) you can 3b AJo, ATs type hands for linear 3b (which will play perfectly when MP folds and SB calls) or fold those and 3b SCs or low pp instead without fear of being dominated when called by a reg in EP. What I'm saying is that there is A LOT of hands with better playablility then T7s.
Your hand is strong enough to call here. No need to squeeze.
Betting small on the flop is okay, but I'd check here. You block 77 that might peel, so I'd rather pot control than try to get value from 88-99. Remember that his range is somewhat tight.
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