MACAO,Venetian 50/100 hk,top two on wet board againtst BT reg
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MACAO,Venetian 50/100 hk,top two on wet board againtst BT reg
Macao,venetran, i was playing 50/100 hk. Weak Fish limps from mid, Bt raise to 300(Hongkong pro, Tag player), i was SB with AsTH(stack 17000,BT cover me), normally i played 3bet or fold in sb,but fish limped, so i called, fish called.
flop AcTd9d, i check,fish check, BT cbet 500, i raise to 1700, fish fold,BT reraise to 4700,how to continue this hand?
i didnt have the Ad, SO i put him on 99,at,axdd,jqdd,j8dd,78dd, question is wil he reraise me with axdd or super draws? coz my image was pretty solid and tight, for me to CR this board i had to at least have two pair+. But we only played few hours together who knows. I called thought cannot just fold top two just yet.
turn Kh. i check, he bet 7000, hero?? very curious about what pio will do, but dont know how to use it. can someone run it for me pls? thanks a lot or leave me your own thoughts. thanks!
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first post on site, it's too messy.
Would need some assumed ranges here if you want someone to PIO it as you’re already admitting that you are taking an unusual line. Were you discounting AA and TT because there’s only one combo? My instinct is that PIO will mostly call with this hand class with reasonablish ranges but I am not sure many players are that well balanced following a 3bet bet turn line.
thanks for your reply Holonomy, just watched a video from coach Saulo GTOorGTNO, very similar hand. Guess gto wants to call most two pair combos on this texture, may CR AT at less than 10%. but bottom set at 30-40%, CR all middle sets.Saulo explains this kind of board could get very dynamic and dangerous. so it is better to call and see what happens on the turn. CR at a high frequency definetely a not GTO strategy.
Pio won't give you much of an answer because firstly it's multiway and secondly pio doesn't 3B in position very much if at all at these stack depths. I'm happy to fold just purely based on the guys preflop sizing, it's really fishy to only iso to 3x so I'm really not getting pro vibes so I don't think his 3B range is going to be balanced but it is going to have sets in it so I'd get out of there, if villain tends to overvalue hands and could do this with A9 or AK then call them down but really your 2 pair is a draw here against this action and you're just hoping to hit a boat a lot of the time.
So I think you are right about the multi-way point but not sure about the pio counter to a line infrequently taken. It should still have explored that space and although the strategy you get will not be as optimised as one on a frequent line it will still be good enough to make the 3 bet a (relatively) negative EV play vs a flat if it is not supposed to be used.
Thanks Dnegs!yeah,totally agree with you,should just fold to his 3b on the flop, or just call his cbet see what happens on the turn, probably call again keep the pot small. Coz I played too many weak games during past few years in most of chinese sites and platforms. Must learn to how to fold now, payed off too much.
Preflop play is questionable. Even with the fish in the pot, calling offsuit Aces in the SB is probably not going to make money. Especially if you normally play 3-bet or fold, your flatting range is really weak and face up, and you will face a ton of pressure postflop. You don't want to play a weak and transparent range OOP with 170BB stacks.
Postflop is weird. You probably shouldn't have many raises on this flop which is very good for the PFR. You probably 3-bet 99+ from the SB, so you don't have any sets in your range. I would not mind calling with your entire continue range here. After your X/R OTF, Villain is supposed to call a lot IP. If he has a draw, 3-betting just bloats the pot and risks getting jammed on OTT.
So, I don't think solver outputs (this is MW, so Pio won't help you directly) are all that relevant here. Villain's play looks very value-heavy to me.
yeah, should calling with my entire range here. He had the nut advantege but i don't. thanks for your advise belrio:)
I would fold preflop. as played postflop, I would fold flop, I dont think that he will bluff enough
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