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Lost on how to study

So I've been playing on and off for years, but only started taking it seriously the last few months and I'm playing 10NL at the moment . I started with the grinder's manual which helped substantially, and decided to sign up to RIO a couple weeks ago. The content is great and I've been enjoying a lot of Peter Clarke's videos especially, but I feel some of the content is too advanced and I feel a bit unstructured(?) trying to jump between random videos and understand what I can from them. I know PIO is an obvious step forward but it's not something I want to grab immediately especially given I don't think my current laptop could run it, and would prefer to improve my fundamentals of the game before studying with it. Overall I just feel a little bit lost on where to go now. Any advice on how to bridge that knowledge gap or where to start would be greatly appreciated!

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Shaun Pauwels 4 years, 8 months ago

If you like Peter Clarke (I do as well) I would suggest his course https://www.runitonce.com/courses/from-the-ground-up/

It's a really solid course. And it also comes with a month essential subscription. If you already have a subscription you will get that amount credited to your account for later use.

wdres123 4 years, 8 months ago

That course does look really good I'm strongly considering it. I've heard reviews saying that it would be beneficial to do solver work alongside it to expand on what's covered. Do you think this is the case or would you say you'd still get a lot out of it without that?

Shaun Pauwels 4 years, 8 months ago

I didn't use a solver alongside it.
What Peter does in the course is explain the "why" behind everything. I'll try to explain.
When you face an openraise preflop and you are deciding to 3-bet, call, or fold. A lot of courses will give you these nice looking hand charts and you'll study them and follow them blindly.
What this course does is explain why you would fold. Why call over 3-bet. Or when you should 3-bet which range to use (merged, polarized, lineair).

Because of this people might advice to use solvers. But I don't see why it's needed. A simple tool such as Equilab (which is free) will do.

The way Peter explains his thoughts and the reasoning behind everything is the exact reason this course is so good.

MattS 4 years, 8 months ago

Pick two things and drill them in the learning paths under "more" up in the header. Reinforce it using the grinders manual and live play videos.

For example, the two things I spent this week thinking about were turn play and preflop three betting ranges from the small blind

MattS 4 years, 8 months ago

wdres123 I just started another thread soliciting videos to watch. Peter Clarke's coaching videos are some of the best so far for misconceptions I think we all have.

Daniel Clemente 4 years, 8 months ago

I agree with lIlCitanul that the course would be a good starting point. Provided you go through slowly and really understand the content, take notes etc.

As a mindset point I would say:

There's a massive amount of poker content you could study. In the context of a lifetime, it's pretty much infinite. The game is simply that complex and there's many areas to cover. You seem to have realised this from being a bit lost in the "sea" of poker knowledge. (I understand RIO can be particularly daunting here with many years of content from many coaches).

I would say therefore that bouncing around various videos of varying topics is likely ineffective, as you'll likely not have fully understood the concept you're studying before you've moved on to the next one. In this sense it is much better to focus on gaining a Depth of knoledge, rather than Breadth.

The content you actually study is in fact not nearly as important (imo) as studying it well. But of course you have to start somewhere... :)

So to choose what to study I would always relate back to a specific point in your game. This way you'll see yourself improving and it will be the most fun for you.

As you play cash games, there are 2 main methods I would recommend:

  1. Look at your stats. E.g. in Pokertracker look at your winrates in various positions. If one sticks out as being not very great, look at that position in depth. E.g. if you see you're not winning much in the cutoff, look into a bunch of videos on RIO of pros looking at Cutoff vs Big Blind, and take notes, try and implement what you've learned, and then review your hands to see if you still agree with your decision. You can also use solvers to help here, but I wouldn't recommend buying one yet at the stakes you play as they can be very expensive, and the RIO pro videos are very good here.

  2. If you don't have stats available, simply take some notes as you play on wherever you feel unsure of a spot, then try and study that general spot later in the same way.

I'll note that you should try and keep these areas of study quite specific. Some good examples to get in depth would be:

  • Single Raised pots SB v BB OOP cbetting
  • Check raising in Single Raised pots from the BB vs BTN.

These are much better to look at than simply generally thinking about "3bet pots" or "Check Raising" or something, as with those topics you'll get lost fast as they're very broad.

Hope I explained myself well enough and that helps. GL :)

MattS 4 years, 8 months ago

These are much better to look at than simply generally thinking about "3bet pots" or "Check Raising" or something, as with those topics you'll get lost fast as they're very broad.

awesome, awesome point. a great database view is hands by position, with this in mind.

Stoic-Centurion947 4 years, 8 months ago

Hello wdres123 I struggled also with this and the video what helped me is Saulo Ribeiro - A Systematic Approach To Strategy Development sure its in the mental game section also you do not need any solvers at the current stake my tips for micros are

1 Using software like flopzilla to analyze which boards are good for you and villain also in say BTN vs BB
2 Mark hands that raise questions
3 Break down every aspect of your game on paper ie are you c betting enough is there aspects of your mental game that need work

I also watched a video on grind preparation which is also in the mental game section and it keeps me accountable

also my favorite quote whats always in my head " Don't Be Obsessed With The Money Be Obsessed With The Progress"

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