Losing much in redline, too passive on BB?
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Losing much in redline, too passive on BB?
Hey,
I'm playing mainly NL200z and some NL100z on stars. Lately i've been looking through my database in hopes to find whats causing my redline to dive as much as it do. Can the answer be that im too passive on the BB? Especially when playing against CO or BTN. My W$WSF on BB is like 39, comparing to 47+ on the other positions. Im defending quite "much" against BTN-steal, 65%+ total.
Where shall I start with all this? Shall I just try to ch/r way more on BB against BTN or how shall I approach this?
Thanks
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You shouldn't worry that much about it. You're always OOP and you don't have the 'initiative' so it's fine that it should go down.
It will always go down if it currently does. It is a playing style thing and having a high redline will not increase your w/r in its self. Changing your game for the purpose of that line is counterproductive.
Thanks for the feedback! I guess im not that concerned about the redline itself, but maybe more about my "passiveness" on the BB. Also my winrate is maybe somewhat bad on BB, -40bb/100 or so in 14k hands (the sample is from the BB only).
Did you correct for the 100bb/100 loss?
No, or what do you mean by correct? :) I just took the bb/100 from HM2. I guess that you mean that i will lose 100bb/100 when posting big blind? If that is the case, then no, i didnt correct for it.
share some BB stats maybe? pre and post. What is your overall WWSF?
Im not sure how to add images correctly. Which stats are the most important?
My:
Cold Call is 34.5
W$WSF is 39.1 (Overall 45.5)
3b around 8%
WTSD 26.6
W$SD 55
Fold to flop cb 49
Do you have stats specific to BBvBU or BBvSB? So far your stats seem loose passive nitty. What is your flop raise vs those positions?
Against BTN:
CC is 49
WWSF 43
3b 13%
WTSD 29.5
W$SD 59
Fold vs cb 46
bb/100 is like -21 here
My flop raise against BTN is 7.4%.
Against SB:
CC 53
WWSF 44.2
3b 12%
WTSD 27.6
W$SD 45.1
Fold vs cb 44
bb/100 -39
Bet vs skipped cb 39.7%
Flop raise is 5.6%
probably should be betting way more vs skipped c-bets and also folding less to c-bets
overall it looks pretty good to me. Unless people open for 2x otb you are calling very wide there.So maybe part of the bad results has to do with playing poorly with the weakest parts of your range. Maybe you can check how well you do when you 3b here vs btn maybe you are not playing that great in 3bp also.
I don't see anything from your stats that look bad to me so perhaps it is a bunch of high frequency spots that you are making minor mistakes in. Also your sample is small maybe you just had a few coolers in all in pots that are skewing your results.
You are passive but not overly so. The way you are playing you will never have a positive redline so forget that but you could pay more attention at the tables and find some spots to be more aggressive in good spots.
If you had higher wtsd, bet vs skip, raise cb and lower fcb your redline would go up but that won't necessarily help you but then again it might.
GL
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