Live 1-2 squeeze or not to squeeze
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Live 1-2 squeeze or not to squeeze
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Utg old Asian man limps covering hero for 100bb
Young guy in town for spring training posted in HJ and raises to $7 w 75bb, he’s been chatty w me and is friendly. I did 3bet him a few hands ago button vs co and he folded.
I have A8hh on co and looks like button is gonna fold. Sb and Bb and both loose passive spots.
I assume the Pfr might call a lot, but play straightforward postflop. Calling is def positive, but thinking it may be better to just play a linear 3b range and really hammer in the reraises. I play at a room with no rake preflop, so think that is a significant factor when we get folds preflop as well.
Main question here is, is 3betting just so ultra profitable that we should reraise pretty aggressively with our linear range rather than flat and play in a 3-5 way flop?
We get to avoid rake w a reraise, and prob can cbet and barrel pretty effectively.
On the other hand, we can call and see a flop ip (as button looks like is going to fold)
I guess this hand can really go into a mixed category, but given the specific circumstances, flatting could be preferred as we have absolute position, and when button looks like he wants to continue, a reraise could be in order to isolate hu in position. Or we could just 3b to isolate hu.
Initially i thought I’d trend towards a reraise being my preferred play, but actually think I like flatting here w A8s, and then prob going ahead w a reraise from A2s-A5s, having less showdown and making less good pairs
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generally these low suited Ax are not getting flatted pre-flop, if you look in Snowie we prefer to flat mid pocket pairs, some suited broadways and then flat some of the slightly stronger Axs that can flop strong top pairs.
if both players are pretty weak, which it seems like they are, then I don't mind a flat, to keep in the fish and then you get to play in position with a decent hand. however, like you mentioned about your table reads, it looks like all parties involved are fairly weak, so I would probably just go ahead and take the free money by 3 betting.
you can't just always 3 bet these suited Ax though, and believe it or not, they are okay to fold sometimes pre-flop, especially vs EP opens and MP flats, both of whom have very tight ranges and your hand plays pretty poorly when the flop goes 3 ways with a low spr. you either flop a crappy top pair, a very weak bottom pair, or air, with the odd FD. most of the time you will just flop air and they will have a range that is mostly stronger Ax as well as mid-strong pocket pairs.
so yeah, in some cases you can also fold, but not in this one. personally I would 3 bet, but don't mind flatting as well.
personally I think 3betting and flatting are both good options.
saving on rake (if the rule is no flop no drop) will incentivise you to 3bet more. Even more so if the rake is crazy high like 10% (Like i have seen in australia)
rake is %10 capped at $5 with a $2 drop for high hand promos. so rake is capped at $7.
With uncapped or very high cap rake you will see optimal play looking to 3-bet or fold most of your continuing range in most spots. That said, if you feel a player is weak and will make mistakes in SRP's then the EV of flatting increases.
SnowAndFire
this is an interesting point. People do make a ton of mistakes in live games, maybe i could be flatting even more than i do IP with hands like T8s, 97s, just to play in pots and search for profitable scenarios.
if you 3bet this hand, you will [usually] chase out the OMC, or should we say Old Man Tea (Asian?), and really only worry about the young guy.
So what type of young guy is he?
1/ If he can raise / fold OOP previously he may already be better than average in a Bayesian sort of way.
2/ If he had a good hand, would he really have Raised to isolate to a size of less than Pot?
3/ What is his aggression/stickiness like Post Flop as a Caller?
4/ What is the chance he is Raising Small, but 4 betting you?
5/ Does he have a commitment threshhold? If you 3bet him to 12 BBs will he realize his 4bet puts him in a tough spot Post Flop?
6/ Think he will fold to your 3bet in the first place?
These are the kinds of things I would wonder, and then decide ingame>....
TK
Yeah I think in general he will play poorly postflop fit or fold mostly and prob never 4b without a strong hand like AK or JJ plus. May not even 4 b AK as I see a lot of players flare aK pre in a live setting
Think in general 3betting is insane good actually because people just don’t 4b light at all in my 1-3 game and they play passively allowing me to realize a lot of equity and apply pressure. I have a pretty tight image most of the time too so I have high fold equity when I need it it seems
Rake not being taken Pre Flop would be huge for me in this game, and it does not seem to be getting the respect it deserves IMHO.
TK
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