linuslove 4bet all in, button vs sb
Posted by stroggos
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linuslove 4bet all in, button vs sb
SB: $5125.00
BB: $11697.62
CO: $6938.59
SB wins and shows high card Ace|a pair of Aces.
SB wins $10318.00
Rake is $2.00
I'm not used to this hand format, so i'll post full hand:
PokerStars Hand #162881417869: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2016/12/13 11:15:42 ET
Table 'Hakone III' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: LLinusLLove ($5554.54 in chips)
Seat 3: VeGeTTo89 ($5125 in chips)
Seat 4: w00ki3z. ($11697.62 in chips)
Seat 6: OtBRedBaron ($6938.59 in chips)
VeGeTTo89: posts small blind $25
w00ki3z.: posts big blind $50
LLinusLLove: posts the ante $10
VeGeTTo89: posts the ante $10
w00ki3z.: posts the ante $10
OtBRedBaron: posts the ante $10
* HOLE CARDS
OtB_RedBaron: folds
LLinusLLove: raises $100.50 to $150.50
VeGeTTo89: raises $449.50 to $600
w00ki3z.: folds
LLinusLLove: raises $4944.54 to $5544.54 and is all-in
VeGeTTo89: calls $4515 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($429.54) returned to LLinusLLove
FIRST FLOP [6h 3h 9h]
FIRST TURN [6h 3h 9h] [2c]
FIRST RIVER [6h 3h 9h 2c] [Qd]
SECOND FLOP [2h Qs Ac]
SECOND TURN [2h Qs Ac] [8c]
SECOND RIVER [2h Qs Ac 8c] [5c]
FIRST SHOW DOWN
VeGeTTo89: shows [Jc As] (high card Ace)
LLinusLLove: shows [Td Kd] (high card King)
VeGeTTo89 collected $5159 from pot
SECOND SHOW DOWN
VeGeTTo89: shows [Jc As] (a pair of Aces)
LLinusLLove: shows [Td Kd] (high card Ace)
VeGeTTo89 collected $5159 from pot
SUMMARY *
Total pot $10320 | Rake $2
Hand was run twice
FIRST Board [6h 3h 9h 2c Qd]
SECOND Board [2h Qs Ac 8c 5c]
Seat 1: LLinusLLove (button) showed [Td Kd] and lost with high card King, and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: VeGeTTo89 (small blind) showed [Jc As] and won ($5159) with high card Ace, and won ($5159) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: w00ki3z. (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: OtB_RedBaron folded before Flop (didn't bet)
what's the strategy behind 4betting here? Is it just simple math showing this to be +ev vs their range?
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Can't say for sure why but some reason would be that he knows SB is 3betting extremely wide.
Say he's 3betting something like this 22+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KJo+, QJo (19.5%) of hands, but he only calls with something like this 22+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+ (10%). In this case he would pick up the ~840 dead money about 50% of the time, and with these ranges KTs has about 40% equity when called. Keep in mind these ranges are just made up examples and I don't have time to go through all the math. I purposely used a 3B range of about 2x as many combos as his calling range to simplify things. But if this example was true, especially with that antes and the large 4x 3B sizing there is quite a bit of dead $ in the pot.
Now you could play with these #s if SB doesn't call it off this wide your equity with KTs goes down but you will pick up the dead $ more often so it could still be profitable.
I'm assuming he's just 3betting super wide and or not calling the shove wide enough. Certainly this is a fine combo to flat as well, maybe it was just a misclick we can't really know for sure.
yeah that's what i was thinking too. it's not a missclick, he did it with A2s, AQo and KTs (again) as well.
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