KK on 8d 7c 9d 2d

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KK on 8d 7c 9d 2d

Blinds: $0.08/$0.16 (6 Players) BN: $16.52
SB: $16.00
BB: $18.36
UTG: $9.00
MP: $16.24
CO: $29.22 (Hero)
MP is LAG reg 31/22 and very agressive post flop with AF around 3.5. Decided to hero call due to hes shove on turn, since he would never play KdQd or QdJd like that and only hands that he might have would be 3 sets, but thats a small chance.
Preflop ($0.24) Hero is CO with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.68, 3 folds, MP calls $1.20
Flop ($3.60) 8 7 9
MP checks, Hero bets $2.92, MP calls $2.92
Turn ($9.44) 8 7 9 2
MP bets $11.64 and is all in, Hero calls $11.64
River ($32.72) 8 7 9 2 5
Final Pot MP lost and shows high card Ace.
CO wins and shows a pair of Kings.
CO wins $31.25
Rake is $1.47

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taaazz 9 years, 5 months ago

Uhm, easy fold imo.

You're in a pretty bad shape vs flushes + AdXx(and not that many of those given his call oop), let alone some weirdly played sets/straights/2pair. Just muck it.

Emils 9 years, 5 months ago

against another opponent i would've easily mucked this one, but this guys keeps raising and betting every pot that he is in, so i didn't believe him and hero called

taaazz 9 years, 5 months ago

Sure, i get that. I'm just saying that vs reasonable ranges, you're in a bad shape.
If you had a read that he was just spewing around - then sigh and call, but keep in mind that it's gonna be high variance nonetheless.

Limp Limpson 9 years, 5 months ago

those are the exact spots that are very very valuable for off the table analysis.

his general tendency/qualities naturally force us to consider absolute strenght of our hand and most players will be inclined to just stackoff vs described villain.

Once you actually input even very loose ranges into flopzilla, you'll see just how often he needs to have air, how many valuecombos he has and that stacking off is not reasonable even vs described villain.

Tdogger88 9 years, 5 months ago

Can you elaborate on that? When i was reading this history and got to the donk shove, i start thinking about why he would make a move like that. Why would his flushes not x/r. If he's being very aggressive then isn't he more likely to x/r the scare card so he can balance out the times he's super aggro with air? And if we do think he's doing this with like Ad9o or AdTo, do we not all have the equity we need to call?

Disharmonist 9 years, 5 months ago

he basically says that he has made the flush, other than that, he should always jam his 2pair hands otf all the time. I dont think we should c-bet kk on this board, as it hits the callers range so hard. Even folding agains one bet can be legitimate.

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