kk in 4pb 150bb deep
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kk in 4pb 150bb deep
villian is reg 23/21 (3b 5 time in 23 hand), feel little aggro.
can i go all the way with him 150bb deep? and how about if vs fish?
will the reg call QQ,AJs for turn jam both deep?
if i go to 3st all in will he call like QQ or AJs ?
how about if i had AA, will you play the same as KK ?
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CO-BTN, 5 handed to begin with. I think if he's got AA you take the cooler and move on.
Definitely stacking off vs a fish here.
Reg probably stacks off QQ here, AJs is questionable.
It's dangerous to flat KK vs. BTN pre. You would require a more complex post flop plan that can be explained here.
Def 4bet the AA here OOP, more so than KK. We don't want to let BTN have control of hand and see more cards that can crack a hand we don't plan on folding.
i was 4b oop with my KK
Im not sure about you're sizing. I think its probably smaller OTF and then smaller OTT we probably want to go 3 streets with this hand especially with the Kh, and being 150bb deep, they just now have too many folds OTT imo. But in terms of getting it AI with 150bbs on this run out seems fine.
Your sizings are questionable on every street. When you 4bt to that size after utg open you isolate yourself vs a super tight range (i would also bet that you dont make it that size w your bluffs).
Then you dont really give him an option to do anything stupid otf with no draws out there.
On the river you are basically saying "You can call AA and JJ and comfortably fold everything else" (or chop KK)
You're not allowing him to make a mistake anywhere and you're almost turning a nutt-ish hand into a bluff (as in, you're basically at the top of your range)
Are you going 20bb for 4b?
Do you suggest hero check calls OTR? Vs all sizes?
You 4bt to a size that makes it possible for you to have bluffs - anywhere in the 20-22 range is prob fine/ideal.
OTR in a 4bt pot there's not much by way of sizing so... 'vs all sizes' basically yes. But, you generally want to be betting the river after barreling instead of x-calling as a general rule. (easier to balance, etc, etc)
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I think your sizings a bit off vs a reg would 4bet for a smaller sizing and on the flop id bet 34% but not full range. Against a Recreational I don't hate your sizings though.
Bet sizing aside, I would not dwell on this spot too much really. Honestly don't mind the bigger 4b pre due to stack depth. Flop sizing is debatable, but completely slashing all realization from his Ax (most notably AK) with a 1/2 pot bet in a pot that is massive already is not a bad thing.
There will be a smattering of AA in his range (some will continue aggressively, some passively), I think some guys will fold JJ due to just how strong the 4b ranges are on Ignition. QQ certainly going to be in there. If we make the assumption that he has 77/55 here, I think it would be a safe assumption he will have good Jx suited at some frequency also.
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