KK: 3barrel/fold for value in a 3bet pot with 15% PotOdds (NL 100)

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KK: 3barrel/fold for value in a 3bet pot with 15% PotOdds (NL 100)

HJ: Player1: 141.50
CO: Player3: 214.35
BN: Player5: 140.74
SB: Player6: 100.50
BB: Hero: 211.51
UTG: Player10: 100
Preflop (1.50) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt K K
Player1 folds, Player1 folds, Player3 folds, Player5 raises to 3, Player6 folds, Hero raises to 9, Player5 calls 7
Flop (20.50) Q 5 5 (2 Players)
Hero bets 12.30, Player5 calls 12.30
Turn (45.10) 6 (2 Players)
Hero bets 27.06, Player5 calls 27.06
River (99.22) T (2 Players)
Hero bets 50, Player5 raises to 91.38, Hero folds
Pot Odds 15%

Villain is unknown I have 62 hands on him (25/16) and I did not saw anything special from him.

Kind of lost here.

Preflop I am 3betting and I guess the Q55 6 runout is pretty good to valuebet vs all his Qx. The river is kind of a blank, he should not have too much TT and just some flushes AsQs/KsQs/QsJs.

I still think we have a valuebet vs all his Qx hands but I thought a lot of those hands are folding to a push. I bet made a 1/2 Ps and Villain snap pushed and giving me 15% Pot Odds for a call.

My thought process before the riverbet:

If he jams I need to fold. He is not going to bluffpush Qx. He can have some flushes/trips/FHs since QQ can call the 3bet given that we are 150bb deep. He is not going to call the flop and turn w air and draws are not really possible.


What do you think? Do you play the hand on any street different? How do you size the flop/turn/river?

Cheers Jonas

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ShadesAA 10 years, 8 months ago

3bet bigger since your 140bb deep 

I see a lot of players making same size regardless of stack size , am i correct to believe our 3bet size should increase as does the effective stack size ? 

Id bet the river bigger, 60-70, your hoping to get hero called by TP and perhaps this sizing makes your range somewhat face up. Youd prob bet more than half pot if you had a bluff. 

I agree with the river fold. 

mavoor 10 years, 8 months ago

Pre is 10bb which I think is fine even 140bb deep. Not sure if above comments were under the impression you made it 9bb or 10bb, but I definitely think 9bb would be too small and I wouldn't mind going just a tad bigger than 10bb with these stack sizes.

I think your sizing throughout the hand is kinda awkward, and that's really just a result of flop sizing. I'd probably go either bigger or smaller on the flop, bigger so you can comfortably bet/bet/shove without having to ~pot the river, or smaller so you can 3 barrel and still leave yourself some room to fold to a river shove (not with this hand on most runouts but with your range) without having ~70% of your stack in the middle

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