JJ UTG VS BB 3Bet
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JJ UTG VS BB 3Bet
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players)
BN: $10.00
SB: $7.22
BB: $10.49
UTG: $11.21 (Hero)
MP: $10.20
CO: $10.00
SB: $7.22
BB: $10.49
UTG: $11.21 (Hero)
MP: $10.20
CO: $10.00
Preflop
($0.15)
Hero is UTG with
J
J
, , ,
Flop
($2.05)
5
3
5
,
Turn
($4.05)
5
3
5
8
,
River
($8.05)
5
3
5
8
9
,
Final Pot
BB wins $7.69
Rake is $0.36
Rake is $0.36
Hello guys!
Its my first thread here.
I find myself in this spot often, my normal play is to fold pre, 10NL regs 3betting range vs UTG is normally really tight (QQ+ AKs), but I see alot of you guys defending JJ+ UTG.
So what should i do here? Should I fold pre or call flop and river, then fold? Call Call Call?
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10NL regs generally don't have the triple barrel bluff as a part of their strategy so folding the river is not really a mistake. Personally flatting pre is quite standard unless you have a read villain 3bets incredibly tight. I think you played the hand well.
Thanks!
Im prob. waaay behind here.
np mate ^^
I don't think he barrels like he did on such a dry board with any bluffs so maybe there is a case for folding the turn (more stats on villain would help you here). But river is obv a fold. Pre flop is fine as 4bet/GII would be pretty terrible
What kind of specific stats would you have looked at?
If you were to have hundreds of hands on villain you could examine their cbet frequency in 3bet pots. You might conclude that they cbet too often on the flop/turn/river and could then adjust accordingly
I think you played well, don`t see a triple barrel bluff on this board
welcome to rio!
keep posting hands !
I'd say this is already a turn decision. If we call the turn, why fold the river on a blank?
Calling down there streets on the other hand seems very overplayed given the board, his position and the general 3bet behavior on NL10. So ideally, we muck it on the turn Id say
How did you arrive at that hypothesis?
On the flop he could be cbetting everything from air to nuts. So calling the flop bet is pretty standard but on the turn, his range is more polarized once he keeps firing, especially given the previous action and the board texture. Also with the SPR after calling the turn, it's hard to get away from the hand on a river like the one shown here. Maybe I'm underestimating of how aggressive the games have become but once I've decided that he's either bluffing or barrelling the nuts then the turn seems to be the turning point, going with a buff catcher or letting it go. You wouldn't say so?
If
1. BB 3B range vs UTG is QQ+, AK and
2. QQ+ triple barrels and
3. AK only bets flop and then checks down unimproved
then your JJ should fold turn unimproved as Turn becomes the street of honesty where AK "bluffs" tend to give up at 10NL.
If BB range is really as tight as QQ+,AKs then you should fold flop unimproved as AKs is 4/22 combos =18% "bluffs" versus 25% pot odds you are being offered.
There is an inherent weakness in your post that is caused by the assumptions that villains range is QQ+, AK.
If I can provide proof of the likelihood that your assumptions are wrong, then I have proved that your post is invalid. If you check your database for the 3bet range of players fitting that player profile, you will get the answer.
The point I'm trying to make is that discrete logic is valid if and only if the assumptions are true.
100% agree but range assumption was OP's. The resultant advice is also ridiculously easy to adapt and exploit by the 3B'ing reg but it is 10NL. And it is a big pool for which OP's range assumption vs some regs IMO is valid but it should not be applied blindly vs all regs. Nor should it be assumed that no regs will adapt and exploit.
Call turn fold river!
nh
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