JJ oop, 3bet pot

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JJ oop, 3bet pot

SB: $4.95
BB: $11.21 (Hero)
UTG: $0.68
HJ: $5
CO: $2.84
BN: $4.75
vilain's unknown. no reads.
Preflop ($0.07) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt J J
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $0.17, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BN calls $0.33
Flop ($1.07) K 5 4 (2 Players)
cbet or not ? He has all sort of KQ, KJ hands in his range. 88-QQ are not folding to a cbet either. If I cbet, he calls with at least some A high hands, TP (KQ, KJ), QQ-88. OTT, an A isnt very good for my range, and I cant really bet on a blank unless im planning on 3barelling to make him fold his PPs ..

However, I have AK, KQ, some low Kxs, AA in my range here. I'd definetely cbet AK, KQ + some A high (with backdoor draw) and A5s, A4s (semi bluff/protection) and I could check AA and the worse Kx hands to balance for QQ-99.


All that being said, I think its a check here with JJ !

Thoughts ?

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cpau 10 years, 6 months ago

what would be the plan on the turn on 

a) an A ? 

b) a blank card ?

Maybe I should also have some good Ax hand in my flop c/c range and c/f them on a blank turn, but c/c again with TP+.. That would make me fold a lot of hand OTT tho.. 


jaypatel33 10 years, 6 months ago

a) I would ch/f, since its likely he has connected with the board.

b)I think it will dpend on how aggro villain is, hard to say really.


Yea I think you can ch/c here sometimes, with hands like A2,A3,A4,A5

Whipman 10 years, 6 months ago

"I'd definetely cbet AK, KQ + some A high (with backdoor draw) and A5s,
A4s (semi bluff/protection) and I could check AA and the worse Kx hands
to balance for QQ-99." - it seems to me that it makes more sense to bet AA and check AK, since AA doesn't block TP combos and makes it more likely for him to have a PP that he is going to call you with at least once.

cpau 10 years, 6 months ago

that's right. Didnt think about that, but it make sens. Its always important to check the blockers in spot like that. 

Logieuk 10 years, 6 months ago

Yes you need a plan, but if you were the other person you would cbet this flop 99% of the time yea? So i'd have to check/call here and see the turn and re evaluate. I Would say your going to have to make a decision based on history

Jonas Smailys 10 years, 6 months ago

You'll see a lot of people by default playing this both ways (b/f or x/c) so this kinda says that it's pretty close.

Fwiw on such a disconnected board texture the protection is less important so I'd even further lean towards x/c.

cpau 10 years, 6 months ago

do you agree with the overal strategy here (continuation range, folding range, etc.) ? because I agree with you that its close between c/c or b/f, but maybe there is an option that is easier to balance. When you have a good plan, its always easier to stick with the strategy. 

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