JJ leading
Posted by Cozacu
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JJ leading
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players)
BN: $32.89
SB: $11.37 (Hero)
BB: $17.27
UTG: $10.00
MP: $15.24
CO: $9.17
SB: $11.37 (Hero)
BB: $17.27
UTG: $10.00
MP: $15.24
CO: $9.17
UTG 24/19 EPopen 13 af 1.6 ftcbet 40 wtsd 32 644hands
CO 28/18 AF 2.2 FTCBET 20 WTSD 29 87hands
CO 28/18 AF 2.2 FTCBET 20 WTSD 29 87hands
Preflop
($0.15)
Hero is SB with
J
J
, , , , ,
Flop
($1.00)
5
5
6
, ,
Turn
($2.30)
5
5
6
6
,
River
($5.30)
5
5
6
6
4
,
1)What do you think about leading F+T here, instead of x/calling?
2)How would you play it?
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X/c flop, leading JJ here is the same as squeezing pre (overplaying your hand).Youre not squeezing because you think hes opening a tight range, so why lead then.
Can you explain why squeezing with JJ is overplaying? I would think squeezing with this hand would get value out of some of his range (77-TT and broadways) and he would only 4b with better hands.
^^this.
@Zoinks Just because villain will call us with worse sometimes, doesn't mean we should (or could) 3b for value. A big problem with 3betting JJ here is that there are 3 people left two act once we 3b, 2 of them represent extremely strong ranges. JJ plays great as a call PF, I don't think it plays great as a 3b in this spot at all tbh.
I disagree wtih SPrince. I do agree with him though that donking here is akin to squeezing pre, but I think the donk is good. We don't squeeze because we felt our hand isn't strong enough. But given the flop, which largely missed everyone we have likely the best hand, unless the PFR has QQ+ but thats a small part of his range.
We villains are more likely to check back given its mulitway and if they do we give away too much equity. So I prefer a flop and donk and turn barrel.
okay. this board favors UTG range? Can we all agree on that? He has a way higher number of overpairs, as both the callers ranges should have more QJs KJs KQs JTs AQo 66-JJ type hands.
As a result, we should expect him to cbet a lot. We typically lead when a board/card favors our range and we dont want to allow our opponent to check back and realize equity without getting money in on a card thats good for us. The more money that goes into the pot on boards that are good for us, obviously the more money we make.
Further, what sort of leading range are we developing here? Calling from the SB, we like never have a 5 OOP, and def dont have KK, AA cuz def wudda squeezed pre. So imo, if i was UTG, i would be raising you very aggressively as my QQ, KK, AA combos are the near nuts.
Good point.
I agree that UTG has the more polarised range of nuts/air, but I think in terms of who has the stronger range, I am not sure, as I think UTG has a wider range, he has AJo, QJ type hands, and we mainly have pocket pairs.
@jaypatel, when someone has a range of nuts/air and the other has mostly medium strength bluff catcher type hands, the person with the bluff catchers should not be doing the betting.
Very good response by FiVEbetbluff. Donking basically caps your range at medium strength overpairs. Against competent opponents you will be in trouble with this line.
I agree FIVEbetbLUFF, I think the fact we are mulitway forces me to donk more often here though, as UTG is less likely to bet, and we give away too much equity vs 2 opponents.
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