Is it a turn fold ?
Posted by Mercurius
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Mercurius
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Is it a turn fold ?
Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players)
MP: $111.82 (Hero)
CO: $154.15
BN: $100.00
SB: $110.42
BB: $113.95
UTG: $126.64
CO: $154.15
BN: $100.00
SB: $110.42
BB: $113.95
UTG: $126.64
Preflop
($1.50)
Hero is MP with
K
A
, , , ,
Flop
($33.00)
6
K
2
, ,
Turn
($33.00)
6
K
2
J
, ,
River
($66.32)
6
K
2
J
9
,
Final Pot
UTG wins $63.32
Rake is $3.00
Rake is $3.00
I just have 30 hands on UTG and nothing interesting.
On CO I have 100 hands he is 21/14 with 0 3bet.
I didn't have any notes on the 2 guys.
Preflop ,flop and river look standard for me.
Is it ?
But on turn I really have think about folding and I really don't know if it's correct to call.
I have call because it's my first day at nl100 and I have think : "hey they are more aggro, I have to call".
Villain snap bet and if I call I could again have to face a raise from CO because JJ probably represent a good part of his range.
With the combination of my range more CO range it look like it's an ambitious bluff for UTG so he probably don't bluff a lot here and if he don't bluff here I will tie at best.
Am I just a nit ?
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I understand what you are saying exploitatively, but from a minimum defense frequency standpoint this hand is an absolute MUST call vs half pot size. I dont know what else you are intending to call (probably ak wihtout hearts and flushdraws).
I think I can call KK, JJ, KJs, AhKh, KhQh and Ahxh
It doesn't make a lot but when he instabet I have really feel like I have loose.
And for the minimum frequency I don't know what it is on this flop but she is a lot lower than normaly because we are 3 players, and we are in the worst position.
I don't know if theyre is one theory about that but I really don't like to be between two guys.
If you have these hands with a very high frequency in you turn range and are sure that the ah blocker is that bad for you then folding might be an option.
This is my range.
I 3bet the green and when theyre is a number I 3 bet the percentage (approximatly of course).
And I check all on flop
I just come to make a deeper analys and by calling the turn with :
KK, JJ,
KJ,
AA,
AhKh, KhQh,
Ahxh
5h4h
5h3h
I defend 31% of my range, but that mean nothing if I don't know with what UTG will bluff or value here.
What is your assumption about his range here ?
Even the most crap hands of the possible holdings from the two opponents we will have some nano-equity....
Why dont u cbet flop to value/protection ?
As played i like the fold on river.. ( turn is a snap)
I dont understand your gemeral approach. You 3bet just because you can and then male inconsisznt checkss an un reasonable slowplays. Given you should not check ak behind otf, you are on the very peak of your range otr and should call
Why should I bet the flop ?
If you was in CO or UTG shoes what would your range on this flop ?
And what would be your range for continuing when facing a bet here as CO or UTG.
I don't think than AK have a lot of value against the 2 continuing range combined.
For this reason I don't bet, and I prefer cheking my all range.
Is my argument wrong ?
Your thinking is upside-down imo. This is the best board you can get for your range. On such a good board for you, you should be applying a lot of pressure and betting with a close to 100% frequency. You basically have the nuts OTF and should be looking to bet tree streets. Both villains have KQs and KJs, with which they will call at least 2 streets and also some pp's that they will call once almost always.
It is unlikely that someone has KK or AA, as you block these combos and they are 4bet most of the time, while the coldcaller probably doesnt have 66 or 22 in his range. Besides taht, if you dont bet the top percentile of your range on this board, you will bluff a ton in comparison or never bet at all which is a strategy that cannot create value when you have it nor give you the folds when you want to get them either.
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