I flat with JJ on SB vs UTG and the nit on BB just shoves 50NL Zoom 6Max

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I flat with JJ on SB vs UTG and the nit on BB just shoves 50NL Zoom 6Max

BN: $53.72
SB: $53 (Hero)
BB: $50
UTG: $53.18
HJ: $43.63
CO: $50.44
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt J J
UTG raises to $1.50, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, Hero calls $1.25, BB raises to $50, and is all in, UTG folds

UTG is an unknown player

Me 23/19/af2.5/3bet8.5  1.2k hands

BB is 19/12/af1.0/3bet11.1  27 hands

I flat pre because UTG is an unknown if that makes sense.

Then the BB snap 3bet/shoved......  WTF?


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HOTSANDWICH 10 years, 11 months ago

stats and reads on BB?   .25-.50 id call because AQ AK, 77-1010 are in his range assuming he isn't top 10% of regs on the site.  

CombatCarl 10 years, 11 months ago

Sorry, I fixed OP, I had BB as SB previously. He seems tight but the sample size is so very small. It's tough to make any assumption so may be a tight looking unknown player? 

HOTSANDWICH 10 years, 11 months ago
And Chael is actually right for once.  Id remove all 6 combos of AA and almost all of KK.  QQ here is rare and it sucks when he has it, but id bite the bullet and call here. 


CombatCarl 10 years, 11 months ago

I didn't think about UTG but yeah I guess that makes some sense or he blocks A or K and may be not the both but then again I find myself folding AK on UTG sometimes by memory against these types of action unfolding before me preflop......


LovePattaya 10 years, 11 months ago

call pre is standart. Seldom you can 3bet/push profitably here. After this crazy push - it's an easy fold. You've invested 2.5 blinds so far - just get it away! Very often he will have AA KK AK


CombatCarl 10 years, 11 months ago

Thanks for all the comments.

Well, with these types of response of black and white surely I can not show the results now for obvious reasons.

It is in a way a crap shoot and I think the correct answer is rather ambiguous or opaque but I am in the calling camp myself and I did tank call preflop. If I must guess....  then the behavior itself is fishy/weird/awkward(negative EV?) and I don't think I'm out of line in stating that so the call on the shove probably is not a bad one given we under repped our hand on SB.

danielmerrilees 10 years, 11 months ago

Youve already shown the results. Everyone knows you lost the hand. Its still an easy call though

CombatCarl 10 years, 11 months ago

LoL

you are just saying that so that I would show the results but I don't think it hurts anyone in saying that I did win this hand and I doubt that says anything regarding his 3bet/shove range if you know what I mean because what matters is what hand he did it with.

danielmerrilees 10 years, 11 months ago

:P Id call with 99 and aq+ Maybe aj - its just hard to fold when someone spazez like this and they could easily just be donating and most of the time are! - folding 88 and worse. haha id honestly be v tempted with qk too. probably resorting to hitting the call button- but maybe not!

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