I feel like I play solid poker for 2 hours then get in a spot like this, get stacked, and get extremely tilted. How should I be thinking about spots like these? What should I be thinking OTT?
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I feel like I play solid poker for 2 hours then get in a spot like this, get stacked, and get extremely tilted. How should I be thinking about spots like these? What should I be thinking OTT?
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players)
MP: $17.12
CO: $5.98
BN: $20.95
SB: $10.00 (Hero)
BB: $2.48
UTG: $14.98
CO: $5.98
BN: $20.95
SB: $10.00 (Hero)
BB: $2.48
UTG: $14.98
V is a 24/20, AGG: 38 over 491 hands.
Preflop
($0.15)
Hero is SB with
J
Q
, , , ,
Flop
($2.10)
Q
7
4
, ,
Turn
($4.66)
Q
7
4
K
, ,
I just get so flustered in spots like these and can't seem to think straight as my time bank runs out.
I'm thinking of how I under repped my hand on flop. How the K doesn't really hit him since AK 3b's pre. How I have Jc blocker and the board has high card clubs that block his flushes. By the time I've thought this all out my time bank is close to 0 and I call and then get angry because I feel I made a fish play.
Are plays like this as bad as I think they are for my win rate? I can't help but feel like spots like these are keeping me from a higher win rate.
If someone could just describe their thoughts on the turn for the correct play that would be much appreciated.
I'm thinking of how I under repped my hand on flop. How the K doesn't really hit him since AK 3b's pre. How I have Jc blocker and the board has high card clubs that block his flushes. By the time I've thought this all out my time bank is close to 0 and I call and then get angry because I feel I made a fish play.
Are plays like this as bad as I think they are for my win rate? I can't help but feel like spots like these are keeping me from a higher win rate.
If someone could just describe their thoughts on the turn for the correct play that would be much appreciated.
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These situations are very expensive and can hurt your winrate severely, to the point of making you a breakeven player.
It seems you have a mental game problem, at least in big pots like these, the way to correct that, in my opinion, is having a strong decision making process, analyze objective data and don't get lost on small, irrelevant assumptions like your Jc blocker.
Going to the hand:
As played:
I don't see any reasons to call, every point that I made lean to a snap fold. To have a +EV call here, you need super strong evidence that villian is overbetting with a lot of random bluffs, and that's not the case.
Yes it is terrible for your winrate. Just one 20bb mistake per 400 hands decreases your winrate with 5bb/100. I think you will like this video if you have a membership:
http://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/30-second-exercise-2/
Thanks for the video recommendation already watching part 2 right now. Do you know if N. Howard has any videos on data points? He references them a lot in this series and it seems like a very helpful concept.
If you xc this otf that means you also xc AK and some other now strong holdings so you will have stronger hands
you have to accept that you will make mistakes and realize that these are helping you grow and improve your skill set. The only mistake that you can make is not learning from your mistakes.
It definitely sounds like a mental game problem. That and you probably don't know your ranges well enough on that board. There are a few things I would suggest:
1) Take this mistake as a learning opportunity. You obviously don't know the spot well enough because you blanked mid hand, so do some card runner ev or pio work on it
2) Keep observing these moments that you become tilted. They will let you know where your weak point in your mental game are. The real mistake is letting this lead to a mistake in the next hand. It's normal to feel frustrated in these situations, but you can respond by making more mistakes or learning that mistakes are just part of the learning process
Forget the flop, turn,and river. If you have tilt then document it. Express your feelings on paper or recording rather than telling someone. Find out what's causing your tilt, be conscious of it, and realize you can't control the cards that comes, you can only control how you play them. If you don't learn to let it go it will manifest itself your next session, only more quickly. If there were no variance no one would play -- especially bad players, because they would always lose. Variance is what keeps poker from becoming chess/checkers.
Tilt loses you mucho dinero.
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