I have PT4 and I saw some where it has a hand grabber. I am not sure if I need a hand converter + card catcher to run a HUD or not. Was looking at the site below and see card catcher and hand converter. Do I need both if I'm using PT4? Which package are people buying for HUD use on ignition?

https://www.acepokersolutions.com/ignition-hud-catcher/