How do I Handle Donk Bets at LLSNL
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How do I Handle Donk Bets at LLSNL
Hi, just joined and hope to learn a lot from this community.
I have a question that is pretty general, but I also think there has to be a more obvious solution that I'm missing.
Let's walk through two hands from my last night's session at a $1/2 home game...
Hand 1:
HERO is BTN with AhKh
SB posts sb 1
BB posts bb 2
MP+1 raises to 15
HERO raises to 45
MP+1 calls (30)Pot 73
The flop comes Qs 9d 2cMP+1 bets 30
HERO raises to 90
MP+1 folds QJo face up
Hand 2:
HERO is CO with AcKc
SB posts sb 1
BB posts bb 2
MP raises to 14
HERO raises to 36
MP calls (22)Pot 75
The flop comes Qs Jh 7dMP bets 25
HERO raises to 60
MP calls (35)Pot 195
The turn is the 2cMP bets 75
HERO folds
MP tables pocket 4s
My recent attempt at figuring out how to handle donk bets when I have an uncapped range is to just raise my opponent pretty relentlessly, but it's starting to feel like spew at this point, especially in hand 2.
I'm not sure really if there's some type of better way to handle donk bets when we don't really know what villain is donking with to begin with.
Any insights into how I can overcome this?
I feel like I have two options...
1) We raise - this seems to be what's working best for me at the moment but not sure if it's correct and feels spewy at times
2) We treat it like a normal bet, call with our medium strength/showdown, raise our nutted hands and best draws, and fold the rest
For instance, though, on hand 2, immediately folding AcKc seems SO weak to just a donk bet, especially after villain tables fourth pair
Even c/c flop and c/f turn feels so weak when our range is uncapped and I think it's allowing villain to fold out our equity way too often
Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks.
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I don't play live. Just my thoughts based on people who donkbet online.
In Hand 2, when the opponent donks the flop small, calls the flop raise; and donks the turn small again, he almost never has a strong hand. So, he will almost always fold to a turn raise, unless he's insane. If you get called, no big deal: you still have two overs and a gutshot.
In general, on these boards, the preflop 3-bettor should have a fairly large range advantage. Donking is basically saying: "I have a marginal made hand (sometimes a draw), and I hate check-calling. Please tell me if my hand is good". So you should give them the bad news often.
Of course, these things are player dependent. As you can see, the first guy folded top pair while the second guy called 4th pair. But it's almost never a super-strong hand, and thus will not withstand significant pressure.
On boards that are bad for the preflop raiser (like 754), it's perfectly fine to check-fold.
This case is different from when someone donk min-bets. Donk min bets are the same as checks, and thus don't mean anything.
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