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Having trouble playing good draw OOP vs tight range

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Having trouble playing good draw OOP vs tight range

BN: Axelzzz: $223.05
SB: stimpacked: $200
BB: Graftekkel: $524.77
UTG: XwhutevaX: $223.96
HJ: ticalsen: $367.27
CO: Fabian_PL: $200
Preflop ($3.00) (6 Players)
stimpacked was dealt A 6
XwhutevaX raises to $6, ticalsen folds, Fabian_PL folds, Axelzzz calls $6, stimpacked calls $5, Graftekkel folds
Flop ($20.00) T 5 J (3 Players)
stimpacked checks, XwhutevaX bets $14, Axelzzz folds, stimpacked calls $14
Turn ($48.00) T 5 J 7 (2 Players)
stimpacked checks, XwhutevaX bets $36, stimpacked folds
Final Pot
XwhutevaX wins $45.84

Is villian's betsize enough big to make me fold here?

x/c x/c and bet on 8,9,A and hearts rivers is the best line should i take? 

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BigFiszh 11 years, 2 months ago

I totally dislike the call preflop. Don´t blindly call because you got a "pretty looking" suited Ace, think deeper, try to come up with a scenario that you´d really like, try to formulate a (rough) plan HOW you´ll make money by calling (and don´t forget rake!!). Can you come up with any?

Either squeeze pre or (preferred) just muck it.

As played, I´d rather raise the flop than call. As played, call the turn, x/shove heart river.


Chael Sonnen 11 years, 2 months ago

Not sure about calling turn here. Mediocre odds and virtually no implied odds. And there aren't too many cards you can lead on as a bluff. If you were deeper, check-raising the turn would be pretty cool too.

Chael Sonnen 11 years, 2 months ago

Also dislike the pre-flop call. Would even be pretty loose on the BTN. I'd flat ATs+, and AJs vs a nit.

You should c/r the flop imo. Versus an UTG open, your Ahigh doesn't have showdown value anymore, so I'd treat as such. You credibly rep sets and JTs.


Ugur Ozgur Secılmıs 11 years, 2 months ago

In that spot what should our flat range be? ATs,AJs,AQs,KQs,QJs,JTs,77-JJ ok ?

If we x/r the flop we plan to jam on turn or bet turn shove the river? If we plan to fire multi streets we should pick a small raise size on the flop


Chael Sonnen 11 years, 2 months ago

Probably squeezing AQs and JJ for value. JTs/QJs are borderline calls imo.
There would be more than a PSB left on the turn after a c/r. Overbet jamming is kind of the easy way out, but your hand will kind of look like what it is. And it's probably not the most balanced play. I guess you could overbet shove a set here on a connecting card too, but you have zero bluffs.



TheRedWind 11 years, 2 months ago

Seems like a c/r is just putting money in vs a nutted range (UTG cbet on BBxhh/ plus you block semibluffs)...and it would take a very special opponent to ever fold turn with AJ+. I'm just not going to have a bluff range here. Is that so wrong?

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