Hand that gave me headache, check this out
Posted by masticlox
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Hand that gave me headache, check this out
What do you believe about this hand and the situation i am in, how would you play that in my position and what do you think is the optimal line
Do you believe i took a fine line or a horrible mistake.Thank you for your thoughts!!! :) :)
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With a FD in a big pot like this its hard for jamming to be truly awful. That being said I don t see us getting through 3 players to grab enough FE to make raising better then flatting. So I d just take the great odds and see a turn card.
agree, however vs solid players there shouldn't be too many worse flushdraws in BB and UTG range. UTG can have a ton of better flushdraws and he shouldn't flat the bet with anything worse than QQ.
BB can't flat JJ really with 2 players behind him and a presumably tight squeezing range.
If BB and UTG are solid I would fold this because it's sooo likely that someone has a higher flushdraw in this spot but since it's NL2 I would just call.
If it goes in you are not really a favourite.. raising is not bad but I think I prefer raising the flop with A high flushdraws (then it's very very good because you get it in vs weaker flushdraws too).
I agree, I don't see how he has a ton of flush draws that beat you. At 2NL few players are going to ''squeeze" 5x UTG with Ax suited and certainly not with K10.
I agree with WM2K, we do not have FE, at this specific scenario someone will call you. And when they do, you won't be the favorite.
I did some rough calculations and considered that you are quite often getting it in against 2 players and put them on somewhat reasonable ranges. The shove is profitable especially if sometimes we are getting 2 folds. We have around 40ish% heads up and 30-35% multiway against their ranges ( I did put 2-3 combos of hands that they shouldn't be cold calling like JTs for the sake of this being 2NL).
ya ok so just because it's profitable we have to shove? calling is also profitable and I believe it's more profitable.
Also in your calculations have you considered that UTG can have a lot of beter flushdraws namely Ax suited?
By shoving we get to realize our whole equity (see turn and river) so I'd shove.
Yes and those flush draws would include 2 combos at most AT and AK ( although AK should probably get it in preflop considering all the possible dead money). I put both of these flushdraws in their hand ranges AT in the UTG and AK the original squeezer and we have around 32% 3way in most cases which is more than enough to put it in without hoping that we actually do get headsup sometimes.
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