Hand History: Interesting River spot

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Hand History: Interesting River spot

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 110.4 BB
Hero (SB): 110.7 BB
BB: 167.2 BB
UTG: 80 BB
MP: 267.7 BB
CO: 59 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ts 9s
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop : (19 BB, 2 players) 7s 9d 2d
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn : (19 BB, 2 players) Jd
Hero checks, UTG bets 10.9 BB, Hero calls 10.9 BB

River : (40.8 BB, 2 players) Jh
Hero checks, UTG bets 27.2 BB,

I honestly think he just has a Jx hand like AJ a lot here. He also has some flushes. He could just be messing around with AQ or AK, but I don't think he would use that sizing on the river with those hands. Without a diamond I think this is a fold.

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Jeff_ 4 years, 11 months ago

Obviously T9s SB/UTG is thin 3bet. Because 3x UTG range suppose to be fairly tight.

This flop doesn't look too bad for you, so I'd go 1/2 with like 70-80% of my range, checking is reasonable. River is fine to fold you block JTss and 99, however you block Tx bluffs in his range. So I like to call 98 instead but that's not suppose to 3bet and TTd better bluffcatcher than T9.

Side note - this turn suppose to checked 80-85% by you so your range fairly strong.

RaoulFlush 4 years, 11 months ago

Not sure if I like folding River tbh. Its correct that blockers are meh on calling. But imo we are to high up in our range for a fold here, esp. due to tha fact we basically have about 0 JX in our range. I guess im making the crying call here.
I think the 3B preflop is ok, even though i prefer 78s/89s a bit (cause they are a bit less often dominated by QTs-ATs)

forCarlotta 4 years, 11 months ago

Hero folds pre because rake is too high

forCarlotta 4 years, 11 months ago

The only parameter should be profitability.
When you pay rake, the amount PRs are taking away from the pot have to be taken into account.
A close decision could be shifted toward a pure action based on rake.

Also, rake affects some dynamics, let's take GG network for example. It has a preflop rake, this changes everything.

Unfortunately, we all play in raked games, so you have to overcome it in order to be profitable

Meliodas 4 years, 11 months ago

A close decision could be shifted toward a pure action based on rake.

This is something very far from being a close decision.

HawksWin 4 years, 11 months ago

I would tighten up your 3b range SB vs UTG. You get called in this spot entirely too much. I would include T9s vs CO/BTN but not vs EP/MP. Check your 3b success in this spot, I am going to guess its between 18% to 25%. I would stick to a linear approach with like 99 or TT+, suited broadways, AKo, Mixing AQo and then something like A5/A4 (where I have a better shot at out-flopping some of the pairs he calls with).

benvelezp 4 years, 11 months ago

I like your approach but i wouldn't include hands like A4/A5. Not sure they're doing that great vs UTG range.

HawksWin 4 years, 11 months ago

I have zero problem with leaving them out entirely, but, should we 3b light once in a while, I still like using A5s/A4s vs T9s since QQ/JJ/TT/99 are squarely going to be in UTG's call range (QQ they will mix as a 4b). That is a lot of combos we can out flop.

Not to mention, we flop more dominated hands that are hard to let go of when we have T9s.

benvelezp 4 years, 11 months ago

Hmm, well wouldn't you be in bad shape equity wise against all those combos?
I guess that's only one part of his range.
I wonder how A5s/A4s does against a reasonable UTG (LJ) raise call range. I might have to look into it.
I think to 3 bet this hand vs UTG (LJ) you would have to assume Villain is going to overfold

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