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gto wizzard or others

hey guys
what do u think about spending very very time in pratice bot gto wizzard or othes software bots?

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RaoulFlush 3 years, 11 months ago

These are great tools and myself is spending decent time on wizard.
But you have to be aware that these are also quite expensive tools.
its not necessary to use them to beat the micros or lowstakes.
You should mainly focus on exploiting the pool rather than studying GTO.
But if you simply love studying (like i do) this is nice stuff.

MattS 3 years, 11 months ago

Gto wizard is kind of a luxury but a useful one. It helps with
-preflop ranges
-postflop review
-postflop drills

It also costs hundreds of dollars a year and doesn’t do anything you can’t do yourself at a lower cost with gto+, flopzilla and a little creativity

HawksWin 3 years, 11 months ago

I would spend my $$$$$$ on something I can run a sim/script based on our range vs a chart based range/GTO Range/Balanced Player range BUT also be able to run the exact same parameters (board, bet sizes, exact same flops) but with our range vs the actual environment in which we are playing.

Example, my pool flats between 15-19% in position vs 2b. So, UTG open, MP/CO fold and BTN calls @ 15% vs UTG and 19% vs CO. Find me a GTO/Solver Based Range that is calling that much. Most are 6 to 8% Max. So, what does this mean?

I would try out some filters or ask around to find out some of this stuff before even investing in a solver. Figure how how often your c bets work in SRP's. Figure out how often you are c betting oop and compare that # to your c bet success number. Without the numbers to go by, how do we decide what is good/bad? Simply staring at grids or typing out there results in a forum is very time consuming and a very ineffective tool.

Once you have the solver, enter your "GTO" ranges but also figure out the pool and enter their ranges and save them both. Label one BTN Call vs UTG RFI (GTO) and save it then expand the range to reflect the environment and label it BTN call vs UTG RFI (Pool). Run the exact same sim with the GTO ranges and the pool ranges then save them both. Open two windows of GTO+ and have both solves next to each other. Make assumptions about stuff before you start clicking buttons (Which range do I bet more against? What combos do I check to protect my check range and avoid being crushed when I check flop? What do I check raise? Does have more Qx in the GTO range or the Pool Range?). Then, compare the numbers of your environment to the #'s from your database. Holy shit, I am only c betting in position 55% and I am c betting OOP 65%. My OOP c bet success is only 39%. Whoa, I am betting 65% of the time when I get folds 39%. What does my range look like when I get to the turn? Does my opponent have an exploit here?

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