GTO or just fold -EV spot?
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GTO or just fold -EV spot?
BN: _McLobster_: $102.50
SB: fagrello: $113.98
BB: Cbl4b: $138.55
CO: Danil27: $161.71
SB: fagrello: $113.98
BB: Cbl4b: $138.55
CO: Danil27: $161.71
Villian is 19/15 reg with 14 3bet in BB, He cbets on 3bpots 65/60/100(2). River sample is 2 hands but I assumed he will cbet around 65% of the time
Preflop
($1.50)
(4 Players)
fagrello was dealt
T
T
Danil27 folds, _McLobster_ folds, fagrello raises to $2.18, Cbl4b raises to $6, fagrello calls $3.82
Danil27 folds, _McLobster_ folds, fagrello raises to $2.18, Cbl4b raises to $6, fagrello calls $3.82
Dont feel comfortable 4bc vs this villian with TT but I would do it with JJ. So TT is the top of my calling range. I am opening wide here so I flat around 17%.
Flop
($13.50)
5
7
2
(2 Players)
fagrello checks,
Cbl4b bets $8,
fagrello calls $8
Turn
($29.50)
5
7
2
8
(2 Players)
fagrello checks,
Cbl4b bets $18,
fagrello calls $18
River
($65.50)
5
7
2
8
K
(2 Players)
fagrello checks,
Cbl4b bets $37,
fagrello calls $37
Final Pot
Cbl4b has
9
J
Cbl4b
wins $136.50
I am new to GTO and using CREV I realized that on the river range vs range I need to call with TT. However if I put TT as my hand vs his range CREV dictates that I should have folded on the turn.
In addition assigning him the Cbet %, he can be only value betting TPTK or better and no bluffs to get very close to the % he is usually cbetting.
So the dilema is, do I have to call these 3 barrels here even though it is -EV because my range overall will be calling and winning money on the long run?
Sorry if this sounds simple or stupid, but as I said I am on the learning curve :)
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Is the turn fold with or without knowledge of the river?
In general you want to plan your ranges multistreet, if you can't profitably call (or raise) on the turn against his range then you should fold.
No. Don't call a bet on any street that is -EV with your actual hand. Even if you have to fold your entire range, don't call.
oh the turn call is -7bb EV, so you are saying I am not being exploitable by folding the turn and/or river? Thanks a lot (without info on the river)
Oh I think I get it.. you saying that having a plan using GTO is ok, but I can deviate from that depending on the cards to come and how they impact his range
No, you should plan your turn calls based on all the possible rivers and how they are played. You don't know the river card in advance.
The -7bb EV should come from a calculation that involves betting on the river.
against 14% 3b range 4betting TTs HU 113bb effective is perfectly fine and you should do it.. I would just call the river also
oh ok I didn't know that what is the bottom for that? I know that for 40bbs I can profitable 3bc 99 with 12% and Ax with 21% or more, but I dont know the exact number for 100bb, how you do that?
maybe 99s I would do it sometimes but TTs is perfectly fine, in a sample that considers every single position of 3betting. If he's 3betting J9s against you that is on the top 34% range, so TT is an mandatory 4bet I think. I can run some math on this weekend and see how it goes.
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