Good winrate from BB?
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Good winrate from BB?
Looking through my DB trying to find some spots where I'm leaking money, I'm leaking some in the BB but not 100% sure what a decent winrate from this position is?
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If you fold BB everytime you lose -100bb/100.
Im not sure if I achieve the highest winrate on BB. :-)
Wow you are tight in bb...
Is this vpip/pfr std in bb? i'm playing way looser..
Too tight for sure. My VPIP is 37! (not saying that 37 is optimal, just saying for perspective)
I'm something like 28/27 - 3b 11/12 and winrate around -25 or close. Lately the problems for me are not blinds but all others positions :)
Thx guys
actually, this is not my topic... ��
but, do you have bigger winrate?
how big? ��
i really love to see your same stats?
Not at home, but my bb winrate is worse. Vpip also around 35...
My winrate is worse too, not a big sample though, and I'm having a downswing.
We might not be very convincing since we both have worse winrate than you, but I think it's pretty safe to say that you could be calling much more often from the big blind. I just watched a coaching video on youtube (stars name bmlm, not sure if you know him, plays NL500 zoom mainly) and he called an MP raise with Q5s from the BB. He said that it's very valuable to close the action and have such a good odds to call. I assume that the bottom of your calling range is like QTs? I suggest calling with Q8s next time!
Also, if you have watched sauce videos, you see the same thing, he calls a lot. I'm not saying that you/we should call as wide as these guys, but it shows that calling wide(r) is a good strategy. And we don't even have to play back that much since we have so good odds to call, having a wide check/folding range is completely fine and optimal.
Mmmh easy equation : your VPIP in BB is bigger and your losses a bigger. Seems reasonable to me to play really tight and just be conservative.
I lose more from every position at the moment. And like I said, small sample and a downswing.
Tight and conservative is cool, but 20 VPIP is just too low, that is leaving money on the table (by folding hands that would be profitable to call).
But I gotta say, -30bb/100 is quite impressive with such a small VPIP. Are you table selecting?
Yeah, I table select pretty hard. I dont play so much zoom.
I had serious leaks on btn. /blog/
I believe i play blinds well, but yeah i would be a lot looser.
Im really happy for ur help guys. Tu
I'm at -30bb/100 with ~33 vpip (loosened up even more recently)
~-30 bb/100 with 45 VPIP here, have to worK on my 3b range though, i think i am not 3 betting enough (~10%).
19k sample -26.5 EV bb/100 40%VPIP 3bet 12.5%
I play NL100. I think you guys should just lead out more on turn and x/r a bit more on every boards.
If you don't have enough time to work on it, Disharmonist quote win in my opinion.
http://i58.tinypic.com/2r22f14.png
When you say lead out on turn more do you mean after a check back or after check/calling a cbet?
Wow, nice winrate. What is that site? :-)
After his xb and also donkbet and be able to bet/call enough on card that helps our range a lot. I also use to have a really small 3betting after my donkbet.
By the way is pokerstars.it
why do people get into these blind battles for 3BB? is it really profitable to defend light in the BB, why not just fold? I CRed and shoved A5dd on a low board with FD+over in the SB on a paired board and a guy called me with AQ and took my stack at NL10
OtB_RedBaron, top tier player has ~ -24,8 bb/100 from 500z - NL5k. I think he's an exelent player, with exelent results and winrate on blinds.
And what are his VPIP and 3-bet?
VPIP ~37.7 ,PFR ~10.8
and
CC ~32.9 ,3B ~12.9
You can't even compare nl500z with NL25 or 50.
At those stakes you can find pretty much any type of opponent, while at NL500z 90% of the field is top tier, and of course you have to defend wider.
At small stakes it should really depend on villains, it is much different between defend 40% vs a 100% opener or defending 40% vs a 20% opener.
Rake also smaller in higher limits, and this stats also contains some 2-4-(5) handed play from 2k+. think.
Also I think he's is really know what he does in most of the situations, he can go for more slight +ev spots.
Also, regs at 500z have a solid game, I'm not talking about preflop but in general. So if they defend 40% BB vs BTN steal, I'm pretty sure their game is well constructed postflop in order to make the preflop call profitable.
I think one of the worst mistake you can make is take a stat alone and try to tweak your, forgetting that changing a single aspect on your game could be terrible overall since it will affect many spots.
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