Getting 180 BB's in pre flop w KK... sigh

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Getting 180 BB's in pre flop w KK... sigh

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Another weird spot pre flop that I almost convinced myself to fold but ended up sigh calling expecting to & eventually seeing the bad news.

We open KK in MP to $.25, CO 3b to $.85, BB 4b to $2.85. Back to us - I dont think flatting the 4b is ever the play here. Especially w a player behind us left to act. I think 5b is the correct play 100% of the time given how the hand has played up until this point. We want to push out CO & get to the flop heads up IP vs BB. Additionally, we have the second best hand in poker. Anyway, we 5b to $6.80 (is this sizing off? We are very deep w BB in this hand so leaned towards making the 3b size a bit larger). Idk if this sizing is optimal - open to feedback/advice on if this sizing is awful & what a better sizing would be. BB 6b rips $18.71. I honestly considered folding & in retrospect maybe that is always the play here. How many hands can BB have that 6b rip 180 BB's in pre flop that we are ahead of? Maybe, maybe AKs which we block 2 combos of. I think we are mainly going to see AA here when we call off w KK. Writing this out it seems like calling off here w KK is a massive punt? Also, this somewhat ties back to my 5b sizing to $6.80 - it seems like we are almost priced in after we raise to that size & get jammed on for ~ $11 more. Idk. Is this hand standard or did we totally punt off almost 2 buy ins pre flop? Any & all advice/ input welcomed. This hand sucked

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akissv7 1 year, 7 months ago

Depends heavily on the player (pool). Does the player pool 5 bet jam 200bb with AKo and/or QQ often enough if yes then call otherwise just fold.

BigBucksNoWhammies 1 year, 7 months ago

I dont think so. Sometimes youll run into a villain who is just punting or maybe tilted & theyre getting their stack in w even less than QQ/AK. However, more often than not when stacks get in pre its usually AA vs KK.

scotty 1 year, 7 months ago

Do an old school equity calculation. Your hand vs his range and then see if your getting the right odds. Don't forget rake in your maths. Also you're asking others to put villain on a range when you presumably have stats on him and have experience in that specific player pool so imo you should be able to assign him a range better than we can. As far as the 5b sizing I think jam would be my only size.

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