Flop top set in 500BB 4 bet pot
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Flop top set in 500BB 4 bet pot
Late night Bovada 1/2 Zone
Hero is eff stack at $482
V opens BTN to 6, Hero 3 bets SB to 22 with QQc, V 4 bets to 52, hero calls.
Flop (104) 7c 8h Qh. V bets 61 and hero calls.
Turn (226) Kc. V bets 150 and hero calls.
River (526) Jc. V shoves for 220 eff. Hero?
Think up until river is pretty standard. OTR it is close. KK is definitely possible along with a hand like A5cc. Have the Qc does matter. AThh or ATcc possible too. Really hard to imagine folding a set for a less than half pot bet but do we see many bluffs or worse value? I seem some crazy stuff on bovada late at night but this is a 500bb pot.
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you can't fold
I didn't. Still interested to see what people think.
Nup,cant be folding a set against this sizing
Anyone do anything different at any point?
You would need an extreme circumstance to fold a hand of this strength. Just curious, what did villain have?
I also would have played it the same.
I'd consider having a turn raising range and putting this hand in it. With stack sizes and villain's bet sizing on the turn, he wants to get it in and I think we should just oblige him.
River all depends on how often we think he is jamming AK combos and AA.
I don't think it becomes too difficult to construct a range for him where this is a pretty easy call, even though people underbluff on Bovada.
It would certainly be an exploitative decision if folded.
Agree when second club rolls off and board starts to connect, raise it up!
You could even raise flop and get some solid value from KK+, Qx, FD's...
His size is huge for a 4-bet pot on the flop but I could defiantly get behind raise flop, jam turn, or just raise AI on the turn. On turn there is realistically 3 hands ahead of us.
As played gross spot, sigh call is standard. He can have KQs, and AA/Ak a small % of the time. I really dont see too many bluffs in his range; maybe something like AcTx, AcJx which would probably be weighted preflop and on at least one or two streets.
If he gets to river with things like A5hh sometimes perhaps a good bluff candidate for him? Of course if he has A5cc he'll have hh sometimes too. Odd turning sizing for those types of bluffs though. JThh would be another good bluffing hand, but prob not in his 4b range?
I called and V had 34hh
sick 4-bet
Doesn't it become hard to balance a turn shove range with bluffs?
Yeah, I think in context of your OOP 4b flatting range, perhaps finding bluffs is a little difficult, but then your jamming range here doesn't have to be very large.
That being said, I think we could consider it an exploitative jam against this player pool. Most are going to over call turn thinking they have enough equity against our range.
Lets say you just jam your 9 combos of sets, villain is getting almost 3-1 on a call, can we find 3 combos of bluffs? JTcc, JThh, T9cc?
I think you played it well, there's nothing wrong with jamming the turn, but there arn't too many rivers that you hate so I think flatting and inducing the bluff is a profitable play as well. Given the stack sizes folding the river is never an option.
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