Flop cbet spot
Posted by Jay Blue
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Flop cbet spot
Another hand I used to cbet every time. Is it correct to check because I do not have a range advantage and I'm also oop? Pretty basic spot I know but man its hard to not cbet every flop.
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GG Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (SB): 208.4 BB
BB: 122.6 BB
UTG: 127 BB
CO: 53.8 BB
BTN: 87 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kc As
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 7c 6s 9d
Hero checks, BB checks
Turn : (6 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero bets 3 BB, BB raises to 6 BB, Hero calls 3 BB
River : (18 BB, 2 players) Qs
Hero checks, BB bets 17 BB, fold
BB wins 17.1 BB
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This looks fine overall to me.
Could make an argument for betting turn slightly bigger (we bet a bit more polar here), but im sure sizings are fairly mixed anyways here.
The Q OTR hits a lot of villains turn bluffing range.
So a decent part of his range is now nutty (JT) or has decent SDV (QT/QJ).
So we are forced to XF more here.
2 sidenotes:
check back flop and raise turn is under bluffed.
Potsizebets are also slightly under bluffed.
So XF river looks good to me.
my first intuition is river fold is bad in theory since your folding too wide top of your range here
ran it throught snowie and it thinks the same, here are the details:
flop you can cbet and its fine, checking is minisculely better
turn bet is standard and calling the min raise is standard
river you can bluffcatch up to 1.5x the pot according to snowie be 0 ev so calling a pot size bet is good here, otherwise your definitely folding too much here esp if you dont slowplay sets on the flop and end up on the river with only 2pairs and top pair
What should my plan be after checking flop? CF seems weak and a lot of villains at this stake will stab random stuff when checked to but this flop is really not good for our hand. Check call seems bad also to me. Villain should also raise pretty wide on flop I think making bet/fold bad? I'm really having a hard time getting my head around spots like this.
its very easy once you check since most people will be bigger than optimal on these boards with too much value thin value, so easy fold vs anything bigger than a 1/4 pot size bet
vs a 1/4 pot size bet or smaller you have direct odds to hit one of your overcards so pure call vs that sizing
if you still feel compelled to call vs bigger bet sizes with AK here then it means your not checking back enough strong hands which is a symptom of your auto cbetting from the meta 10 years ago
hands like T9 J9 98 87 are being pure checked according to Snowie, so if you are auto cbetting any pair any draw any combo pair draws along with your overcards, backdoor equity bluffs and pure bluffs then your cbetting way too much and will find it hard to fold AK here
once you balance your range youll have better understanding of these spots, start by pulling the weakest cbets you would auto bet from 10 years ago and check calling them instead such as weak top pairs, second pairs, weak draws
you dont have to play pure optimal like a solver (snowie thinks AA is a mostly a check here but at 10nl its certainty better to bet), but you have to redistribute your range from what you were use to 10 years ago to meet gto halfway so that your still playing an exploitatively game but a bit more balanced than the meta you were accustomed to
yea it was really fun and easy to cbet 2/3-3/4 of pot on every board at a super high frequency on full tilt and show instant profit, but after solvers we can now learn how to bet at a lower frequency to balance checks, and using smaller bet sizes as the aspects that differ the most from modern games compared to 10 years ago
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