Facing a limper in the BTN. How would you play your range here?
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Facing a limper in the BTN. How would you play your range here?
How would you play your range in this spot?
9max. First 3 seats fold. MP1 open limps. MP2(HJ) and CO fold. We are in the BTN.
For mp1, we have only a few hands which is not enough to tell what kind player he is. His O/L here though tells us clearly that he is a fish. On the SB on about 160 hands we have a player who is a reg. On the BB we have a player who is 23/12 on 300 hands and I would say he is a loose passive player. His limp% is 10 which is very high and also has open limped from BTN in the past which is very passive.
So for MP1 I think his range will be sth like this:
If we iso here and he calls us for heads up then it might be sth like this(which is 80% defence):
So my iso range would be this one(my sizing would be 4bb):
And my limp behind range would be this:
I think that the fact that BB is a little loose here helps on limping behind more stuff and at the same time decreases fold equity pre and also increases the frequency of multiway pots which would require to have a little stronger iso range here.
I dont know if the O/L range I assigned is correct but lets assume that this one would be his OL range. Based on that range and his high defence, how would your ranges be here?
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Can iso raise him wider - maybe around 30%, we will play IP against anyone and it is easy to realize equity. I'm not even saying that some players don't like to fold after limp (flatting close to 90%) and play fit-o-fold postflop.
Actually it is hard to give them ranges(limper), you can see unlogic limp/calls like 95s/ 74s / even 76o(zoom tables from 30/8 type of guys) because those hands to some people look cute
Thank you! :)
A lot depends on their overall tendencies.
Habitual limpers often limp some strong hands to keep their range protected. You'll see people limp/calling with AQo and even AK occasionally, for example.
Against people who both raise and limp, their limping range tends to be weaker and you can attack it more easily.
So, when you give the limper a range which looks like a BB defence range; that range may not be accurate. BB flatting range against the BTN open usually doesn't have the strongest hands, while the limp/call range certainly can have strong hands.
In my own study against these players, I like to give a reasonably wide range to the Villain, which includes some quite strong hands. It can lead to some weird situations postflop, since you often don't have a big range advantage/nut advantage on many boards. For instance, if people limp a lot of Axo, your advantage on an Ace-high board may not be a lot. You probably still have more good top pairs, but Villain can have a lot of medium-strength top pair hands.
I still don't understand why players open limp. There are guys who just do it religiously, even when other players are openly laughing at them and criticizing them for it. They'll open limp 80% of the time they can and just call, call, call postflop lol. I said it earlier today already: I just cannot conceive of who these people are. I'd love to see some photos.
I stacked a guy earlier who called a large 3b mw pre, called the flop, the turn, and then donk shoved river with point blank air. Like 49o. When I asked him why he said "because you have a polarized range there". Dead truth.
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