Exploiting weak-tight micro stakes 4b/5b ranges
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Exploiting weak-tight micro stakes 4b/5b ranges
I've just been watching Steve Paul's preflop ranges video and it's got me thinking. At 25NL and below the standard value ranges he talks about are way off the mark as most (70% of) regs are almost never 4b bluffing and as a result almost nobody is ever 5b bluffing. I do expect most regs to 3bet bluff a polarised range (and many are 10%+, in my DB the best ratio of winners to losers is those who 3bet 10-14% of the time). I expect their 4bet value range to be QQ+, AK and their 5b calling range to be the same (but less combos of AK and QQ as they can flat 3bets sometimes). I also expect that most regs know this, thus will expect any unknown TAG player to play in this way. How can we exploit these facts?
To call a 5 bet after 4betting 20bb over a 3bet of 9bb, we need about 62% equity to be profitable.
Would it make sense (based on the above being correct) to do the following 100bb deep without specific reads vs someone running 22/18 with 6% 3bet or more:
-Tighten our 4b value range to be AA KK only and balance that with like 66-80% bluffs
-Never 5bet bluff
-Only call 5bet jams with AA and KK (obviously)
We could possibly include AKs as this still gives us 63% vs the standard 100bb GII range (KK+ is 70%, QQ+ is 58%)
One downside is that we are now playing more 3bet pots OOP, the upside is that our range for doing so is strong
Keep in mind the player pool is huge and the good ones move up so we rarely get to play 1k+ hands with good players, thus can play more exploitably than at higher games.
I know this is a very incomplete thought and there are other things that need to be considered (realising equity OOP for example), would be really interested in people's ideas.
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errrm no, we would need about 38% equity to call, peoples 4bet ranges are tight but not static, a lot of people 3bet/jam AK and QQ and sometimes worse.
Remember when you have AK you have blockers to AA/KK so only 6 combos of them can exist.
This is a massive red flag, and I stopped reading at this point. You NEVER EVER need >50% equity to call off. Every time you calculate equity needed vs villain range it will always be below 50% because of the dead money in the pot. i.e. If villain shoves $1000 into $500 pot, you are getting 1:1.5 and thus need 40% to call since the percentages that yield a 1:1.5 ratio are 40/60
Okay I massively miscalculated that part - did the calculation as though it was a postflop scenario. Oops. Makes a lot of sense then.
Yes I did factor blockers into that calculation, however was calculating as calling 80bb to win 121bb for some reason.
Despite my incorrect maths, is there a way that we exploit these pre-flop ranges to make them +EV for us? Or is the "standard" preflop get it in range of QQ+, AK near unexploitable with standard betsizes?
If people don't 4bet enough, I'm 3betting a lot versus them in position, because a strategy that does not include enough 4betting is countered with a strategy that has a lot of 3bets. Villain ends up calling and folding a lot versus our 3bet, and we really don't even mind playing postflop because we're IP and atleast we have a playable hand (we should have a playable hand, construct your 3bet bluffs in a way that there's some playability. When I say "3bet a lot" I don't mean that you should 3bet crap like T2o, but rather hands like 97s/86s/K5s/Q6s, BTN vs CO for example).
Calling 4bets is also not that ideal if people don't 4bet enough, and 5bet shoving as a bluff is obviously bad if they have only (or mostly) value.
Would you still 3bet their UTG/MP opens light? What about their CO opens when we are in the blinds?
Not that light, but I would definitely have a bluffing region. I would probably 3bet AA/KK for value vs. UTG and add bluffs like A5s.
On the blinds we want to 3bet a lot too. Not gonna go too much in-depth, check some videos and see what kind of strategies coaches are using and create your own plan based on the knowledge you get.
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