did i play this hand to passive OP? Gutshot + backdoor FD against tight strong range.
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did i play this hand to passive OP? Gutshot + backdoor FD against tight strong range.
BN: $78.80
SB: $50.69
BB: $145.98 (Hero)
UTG: $18.08
HJ: $51.25
CO: $52.63
SB: $50.69
BB: $145.98 (Hero)
UTG: $18.08
HJ: $51.25
CO: $52.63
Villain after 300 hands: vpip 21,pfr 16, rfi MP 10, cb 50, ct 100, wts 19, wsd 100, AF 3
I think this villain is pretty tight, only opens 10% from MP, went to showdown only 19%, won a 100% on showdown.
I think this villain is pretty tight, only opens 10% from MP, went to showdown only 19%, won a 100% on showdown.
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
K
UTG folds, HJ raises to $1.50, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $1
UTG folds, HJ raises to $1.50, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $1
Flop
($3.25)
T
A
8
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
HJ bets $2,
Hero calls $2
Turn
($7.25)
T
A
8
4
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
HJ bets $4.50,
Hero calls $4.50
River
($16.25)
T
A
8
4
9
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
HJ checks
Final Pot
Hero has
Q
K
Hero
wins $15.52
I think i did not play this hand agressive enough, am i right or are there some advantages playing like this?
The villain is pretty tight from MP so i know i'm playing against a strong range here and i think its correct not to 3bet with my hand here? Anyway when the flop comes ace high i expect the villain to have allot of good aces in his range, normaly with my gutshot and backdoor FD i would check raise here and have allot of turns to barrel. But i was scared of the villains strong range and i did not wan't to get 3bet by the villain and not see a turn or river anymore. So i picked the passive way and check called. The turn is a great card for me, i check called again because my equity got even better and the villain seemed to bet a good size to protect his strong hand. At the river i hit the 2nd nuts and i check expecting the villain to bet thinly with his good hands so i could raise him since he can't really put me on a backdoor FD here right ( i'm not saying he is gonna call me allot of the times)?
Anyway i think this hand was played badly. It was in the end of my session and it was played way to passive. I think the flop is a check raise, turn is a great barrel card and river is a easy shove. If the flop was called like in this case then the turn is probably a check raise right? So what do you guys think, isn't it that bad of a play because after check raising perhaps getting it in would leave me playing against the top of my opponents range where i'm behind against? Or should i have been more agressive the whole hand or at least in some part of the hand? Thanks!
The villain is pretty tight from MP so i know i'm playing against a strong range here and i think its correct not to 3bet with my hand here? Anyway when the flop comes ace high i expect the villain to have allot of good aces in his range, normaly with my gutshot and backdoor FD i would check raise here and have allot of turns to barrel. But i was scared of the villains strong range and i did not wan't to get 3bet by the villain and not see a turn or river anymore. So i picked the passive way and check called. The turn is a great card for me, i check called again because my equity got even better and the villain seemed to bet a good size to protect his strong hand. At the river i hit the 2nd nuts and i check expecting the villain to bet thinly with his good hands so i could raise him since he can't really put me on a backdoor FD here right ( i'm not saying he is gonna call me allot of the times)?
Anyway i think this hand was played badly. It was in the end of my session and it was played way to passive. I think the flop is a check raise, turn is a great barrel card and river is a easy shove. If the flop was called like in this case then the turn is probably a check raise right? So what do you guys think, isn't it that bad of a play because after check raising perhaps getting it in would leave me playing against the top of my opponents range where i'm behind against? Or should i have been more agressive the whole hand or at least in some part of the hand? Thanks!
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You can't infer very much about positional opens from a 300 hand sample. He's been dealt in the hijack 50 times and raised 5 times for a positional raise of 10%. If he raised 8 times, his positional raise would be 16%. It's likely he was running cold over your sample. His showdown numbers are going to be similarly unreliable.
After all that-- calling preflop with KQs is fine. Flop or turn probably can be profitably c/r against most strategies, but c/c will also show a profit. Leading river might be best in a vacuum against a weak player, but c/ring the river is fine as well.
The bottom line is that your hand was played very passively, but you didn't lose much if any e.v. by taking your line.
so the agressive line is something to mix up with this line but not that necessary as i think?
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