Defending against BB 3bets from SB

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Defending against BB 3bets from SB

Hi guys! I'm trying to improve my blind vs blind play and one topic that I don't see often on videos is calling 3bets OOP.

If I'm opening 60% from SB theoretically I should defend 33% of that range against 3bets so that my opponent can't auto profit. That means against a 3bet I should continue with a 20%. If I 4bet 99+, AQ+ for value that's a 5%, so I can add another 5% of 4bet bluffs. So what happens with the other 10% I should defend? Does it make sense to start calling 3bets OOP with something like 66-88, 87s+, suited broaways, AT, AJ, A9? And asuming that is right, I still have no idea how I'm supposed to play that range postflop.

Even if that is a theoretically correct defense range on practice I have a huge trouble applying it; I play NL50 FR and against many opponents I don't feel comfortable 4bet/calling something like TT/99 (some people don't 3bet much or fold a TON vs 4bets). And once I call their 3bet I end up folding too much postflop because I find it very hard to play 3bet pots oop without initiative. However I think it's necessary to call 3bets with those hands because if I start 4bet bluffing them, my 4bet range would be extremely unbalanced.

To sum up my questions are:

- Against someone who doesn't have any evident leaks, is my 4bet value range reasonable? And should I be calling 3bets with the range I mentioned?

- For those of you who know NL50/NL100 FR dynamics, do you think my ranges make sense?

Thanks!





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Daz 10 years, 11 months ago

Well If you only play fold / raise versus a 3bet OOP, a 60% SB opening range means you need to be bluffing 4betting much wider -{77+ AJ+ ATs KQs} and the ratio should be closer to 40 / 60 bluff / value or 45 /55 bluff / value depending on villain's 3bet sizing. But as you can see, having such a wide value 4bet range - due to your high SB open means you may be overplaying your hand versus villain's value 5bet range, even his 4bet calling range might give you problems postflop with your low end of your value range. 

Now for the very reason that i struggle to play marginal hands OOP, i wouldn't advocate doing the same until you develop some good reads on villain's postflop tendencies.

there is a lot to get through here, because villains may be 3betting light but their shoving ranges might still remain very narrow. if villains call 4bets after 3betting add / widen a linear range. If they respond by folding / raising then you can be linear and use more strong medium hands to call. 

I play plenty of FR right now, and its important you have an idea of villain's: a) 3bet range, b) 5bet shoving range and whether he c) slowplays premiums

If you don't have the above info you can't expect to make a good decision

Also, playing OOP with weaker hands is already a poor EV situation, you don't lose much by folding


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