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David/Sam Hand reviews

stakes: 1/3 NL $500 effective stacks. straddled on for 1/3/5

-Tight UTG player raises to 20, 2 callers in front, I flat with AQspades on button (normally I would 3-bet this but raiser was v tight). big blind calls bringing in 5 ways to flop with $100 in pot.
-Flop KsTd5s giving me straight and flush draw. Checks around to me, I bet $65, big blind calls, everyone else folds. (pot now $230)
- turn comes 9c. bb checks, i consider barreling big here but check back given the 9 is going to be better for the caller's range and i want to realize my equity (although definitely see the merit to an overbet shove here, esp blocking QJ)
-river is 6d. bb bets 1/3 pot, i fold.

feel i played this too passive. any thoughts?

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or3o 3 years, 3 months ago

-Pre I think 3betting pre is better. Somewhere between 75 and 90. Even though he is a tight opener most of the players have no 4bet bluffs. They'll probably even call most of their AK and only GII with KK+ but they will have a lot of folds and calls and AQs is just too good imo. AQo makes just calling more attractive as does being in the BB instead of on the BTN.

-F We definitely want to bet the flop. Maybe a smaller bet is good because of the low SPR.
What size would you bet if you had KQo in this spot?

-T The 9 isn't good for our hand but we can both have all of the QJ and he has sooo much more trash being in the BB that I don't think it's actually that good for him. He can have a lot of very weak kx. I think that most of the time our had is too strong and it's a great hand to be able to apply some pressure with. It's the low spr that has us handcuffed. i think checking is fine but betting is probably better.

-R not much to be done here. good fold.

slammin22 3 years, 3 months ago

I agree with your analysis considering the passive play in these games.

based on the game play I don't think this player had much trash at all after calling my flop bet. there were 3 guys still to act behind him and he was a farily tight, thinking player.

surprisingly, pio prefers checking back this flop and turn with our exact hand but i prefer betting also considering the very low C/R frequencies in these games.

Holonomy 3 years, 3 months ago

You can’t use PIO in this situation as it’s multi-way which is a very different situation. KQ probably mostly check.

Adrian Milroy 3 years, 3 months ago

I like 3betting pre to begin with. Would rather flat AQs multiway than AQo as I don't plan to Jam AQs/o over a 4bet anyways.

I like the following 2 lines:

Bet flop, between 50-70$ and then I like a barrel on a non-paired turn. The 9 turn really shouldn't stop you. Firing out about 140-190$ should be good sizing for the turn bet. We're getting FE out of this obv and winning the pot a lot. If we get shoved on OTT, oh well we wasted our 27% equity but we have made a valiant effort to win the pot.

Check back flop, call almost any turn bet. Our hand is very disguised and we're inviting coolers by keeping the field in with a possible nutted hand IP. We have a lot of implied value here. Downside is we never really realize any FE and even if it's checked to us OTT, a stab is likely not going to go through and may even be CRed which is disastrous for our hand.

As a live poker hand, you really need to take the line that you feel best matches the field of opponents you're up against. One is not necessarily better than the other. Even betting flop and checking turn isn't terrible, I just think betting twice or checking twice is probably a better line overall.

Gino Song 3 years, 3 months ago

Preflop 3betting is so much better than calling. Postflop I can see merit of playing any line, so use the one that best exploits opponent at your discretion.

or3o 3 years, 3 months ago

A couple of 3bet pots i played last night.

I pretty much never check here. just bet small to half pot almost always. I'm betting 99-JJ but i decided to check this flop.

NL Holdem 2(BB)
BB ($635.37) [VPIP: 14% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 138]
UTG ($209) [VPIP: 20.4% | PFR: 14.8% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 56]

Dealt to Hero: Ah Qh

UTG Raises To $6, EP Calls $6, MP Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $20, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Folds, EP Calls $14

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.55 effective]
Flop ($49): 5h 8d Qs
EP Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($49): 5h 8d Qs 2s
EP Bets $16 (Rem. Stack: $255.74), HERO Calls $16 (Rem. Stack: $257.49)

River ($81): 5h 8d Qs 2s 6c
EP Checks, HERO Bets $38.50 (Rem. Stack: $218.99), EP Calls $38.50 (Rem. Stack: $217.24)

HERO wins: $154

The flop is good for villian so I check my straight draw. I don't have many tx that doesn't continue betting on the flop so i thought I could try for the OB on river.

Dealt to Hero: Th Ah

UTG Folds, EP Folds, MP1 Raises To $4.50, MP2 Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Calls $4.50, HERO Raises To $19, BB Folds, MP1 Folds, BTN Calls $14.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.04 effective]
Flop ($44.50): 8s 7d 9c
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $23 (Rem. Stack: $157), HERO Calls $23 (Rem. Stack: $167.15)

Turn ($90.50): 8s 7d 9c Jc
HERO Checks, BTN Checks

River ($90.50): 8s 7d 9c Jc Ad
HERO Bets $94.50 (Rem. Stack: $72.65), BTN Folds

HERO wins: $86.50

or3o 3 years, 2 months ago

Dealt to Hero: 9c Qc

UTG Raises To $3150, EP Folds, MP1 Folds, MP2 Calls $3000, HJ Folds, CO Calls $3000, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls $1500

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.51 effective]
Flop ($14100): 5c 2c 7h
HERO Checks, UTG Checks, MP2 Bets $35395 (allin), CO Raises To $36314 (allin), HERO Raises To $41622 (allin), UTG Calls $38260 (allin)

Turn ($165691): 5c 2c 7h 9d

River ($165691): 5c 2c 7h 9d ??

slammin22 3 years, 2 months ago

Think I prefer jamming to folding but kind of depends on the stage/dynamics of the tournament? Axc is easy allin but I think you can fold Q9c if you're closer to the money with about 30bb. don't think either play is a big mistake tho

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