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Criticize a random hand 3

Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $10.00
SB: $16.22
BB: $32.12
UTG: $12.49
MP: $16.15
CO: $15.13 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q K
UTG raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.80, MP calls $0.80
Flop ($3.75) 7 8 K
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.78, UTG calls $1.78, MP folds
Turn ($7.31) 7 8 K 9
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.47, UTG calls $3.47
River ($14.25) 7 8 K 9 3
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.77, UTG calls $6.04 and is all in

Any comments will help

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lion777 9 years, 1 month ago

Assuming no reads on villain?
I'm checking that river. That's basically a spot where we'll often fold out worse and be called by hands that beat us.

klamsauce 9 years, 1 month ago

I think preflop is not great against a 4x utg open and mp call. We need to go bigger as well. I think probably like 1.60 at a min for a sqz here is better. It's also fine to go bigger here in general since we are repping a strong range and likely have few bluffs to accompany that.

As played, I think it's fine but just checking behind river. I can't really imagine getting called by worse here. We do a lot better against his call flop and turn range than we do against his call triple range.

Wildspeaker 9 years, 1 month ago

If you have a strong range and no bluffs that would be an argument for going small. You bet big when you have a relatively large amount of bluffs in your range.

That being said KQo would fall into the "bluff" category (I hate this word preflop as every hand has equity and therefore is never a pure bluff). So we obviously have at least some 3B/F hands in out range. To me that would be reason to size it bigger as suggested before.

Dddogkillah 9 years, 1 month ago

Im folding preflop as well, without read against 100bb stack im polarizing three bet range.

Wildspeaker 9 years, 1 month ago

I would polarize too. But isnt KQo the perfect 3B/Fold hand in this spot? I would call AQ and KQs so this is pretty much the strongest hand I wont call. So 3Betting seems fine to me.

Just realize the best outcome is everyone folds. This means if we run into a lot of resistance postflop our hand is likely not good enough. For that reason I am also checking back river as their is hardly anything we can value from, but plenty we own ourselves against,

Dddogkillah 9 years, 1 month ago

didnt even notice MP CC, either way needs to be sized up.
And to answer you question, I dont think so.. We will be dominated allot by a stong UTG range and a strong MP cc range. I would use hands that retained there equity against a three bet calling range better.
Honestly not even sure I would polarize here w/ the MP call...

Wildspeaker 9 years, 1 month ago

What are you going to be dominated by when they call? AA-QQ and AK should be reraising (maybe QQ and AK wont). In any case we block pretty much all of their continuing range pretty hard. And the hands we are mostly worried about still dominate hands like 87s or anything else you would like to use instead.

Dddogkillah 9 years, 1 month ago

AK, AQ,KQs, AJs, 88-QQ, id suspect MP to be calling a good frequency vs a UTG 4x open.

all

You use this word rather loosely here,
against a UTG opening range of : AA-44,AKo-AJo,KQo,AKs-ATs,KQs-KTs,QJs-QTs,JTs,T9s

There are still 6 combos of QQ/KK, 12 combos of AQ, 2 KQs blockers are some what irrelevant here.

Wildspeaker 9 years, 1 month ago

My main point here is that we are hoping they will fold. I dont think a hand like T9s will play much better postflop against their continue range.

T9s (or 77) has the possibility of flopping a set or good draw sometimes (but only rarely). If that doesnt happen it is toast. KQ at least makes a pretty big pair which can easily be good enough to win (were certainly more likely to realize our equity with a pair of Ks as opposed to a pair of Ts, but thats only minor).

Imo the blocker effects of KQ more than make up for any increased playability on hands like T9s or 77. To be honest I dont think they have much (they do have some though) of an increased playability against what I perceive to be UTG continuing range anyways.

Can you state your reasons for preferring hands like T9s or 77 (or anything else)?

Dddogkillah 9 years, 1 month ago

Can you state your reasons for preferring hands like T9s or 77 (or anything else)?

I cant because I never said that, but I would use the best hands im not calling, to 3-bet.
77 would be a awful three bet imo, my calling range would be very strong here. Honestly not even sure if 77 would fit that bill or T9s. Would call a very strong range here if calling at all, in most case, UTG open MP call.
But hands that could work here ATs, A5s-A4s, KJ/Ts, QTs if we didnt think we could profitable call with them. For reasons I thought I did a good job outlining those above:

We will be dominated allot by a stong UTG range and a strong MP cc range
I would use hands that retained there equity against a three bet calling range

urb 9 years, 1 month ago

Awful river shove. You're basicaly turning your hand into a bluff at this point, given how strong are the ranges after preflop action. The problem is you can only hope to fold out a chop, maaaybe AK if opponent is a huge nit. In villains shoes I would be doing a sigh call with AK.

Kalupso 9 years, 1 month ago

I think you should mostly check turn here because you will/should get shoved on a lot with that SPR. OTR it is really close because of the small SPR (assuming villain shoves most/all 2pair+ OTT) but given the positions and 3way I think checking back is better this stime. With deeper SPR you should always check.

PS If villain has a low turn shoving frequency here then betting river is bad, but his range should be really capped to KJs, KTs, KQs, KK (if slowplay preflop BC of turn blockers) and some AK.

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