Crazy river bluff NL25z

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Crazy river bluff NL25z

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $36.38
SB: $25.66
BB: $26.40 (Hero)
UTG: $56.17
MP: $47.64
CO: $79.81
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with J 9
4 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50
Flop ($1.50) 3 6 5
SB bets $0.47, Hero calls $0.47
Maybe too loose to call but had backdoor straight draw as well and thoght not the best hand to raise.
Turn ($2.44) 3 6 5 8
SB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $5.50, SB calls $3.75
hand too weak to call but i block nuts and i have much more low off suit cards in range which make straight, 2 pairs so decided to bluff
River ($13.44) 3 6 5 8 2
SB bets $12.50, Hero raises to $19.68 and is all in
This donk is weird not only he doesn't have many 4x which bet bet/call, actually it was open ender on the turn so he may a lot of them. It was looking like turning some shodown value into bluff and i was blocking nuts so decided to raise, was looking a bit bluffy, thought people either check call or bet smaller straight there.

Villain is a reg, after 150 hands had high river bet like 50

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Jeff_ 6 years, 4 months ago

River donk doesn't seems to me like a play, against it I'm not sure I want to be shoving. Problem with shoving that 4x never folds and he need to be donking busted FD(if never does it, we will just burn money :)).
As well would like smaller turn raise(raising more mergy) and probably with one heart in my hand(really doesn't matter) just to put pressure on more rivers.

aceinthehole 6 years, 4 months ago

I think having a heart is very important here.This hand has very poor equity you need the added fold equity from blocking part of his calling/raising range OTT and the ability to bluff a heart OTR.

Jeff_ 6 years, 4 months ago

however if we don't have a heart like here we can fire rivers like this one (non hearts) and get folds from villian's fds

KaptajnKold 6 years, 4 months ago

This seems speewy to me. The problem is that you are laying him such a good price that he has to call if he has even a whiff of showdown value.

devwil 6 years, 4 months ago

Grunching (and I'm relearning NLHE, so take my feedback with a grain of salt).

Flop, for me, is raise > fold >>> call.

You raised the turn instead, which is okayish maybe, but more expensive when you're wrong than if you'd made a similar play on the flop.

River needs to be a fold, imo. You don't have enough chips to push villain off of hardly anything, and I think their turn call/river pot range is too strong for this to work anyway.

JackPozzi 6 years, 4 months ago

The river raise is probably a large mistake vs a pot-sized donk bet. In my pool that size is heavily underbluffed when they donk. Also in micros there are a lot of players who take these kind of lines for value (like XC XC donk with a monster). And you don't have enough stack to fold out anything.

In general look for clear spots against the right opponents to bluffraise the river. They just don't fold enough to river raises on average so you need a number of pieces of evidence to put a profitable bluffraise, for example:

  • Weakish bet size (block to 70% or so).
  • Line that is bluffed more often (like a probe bet on the river, for example).
  • Opponent that bluffs more often, or value bets thin and can fold vs a raise.
  • Then you look on blocker considerations.
SnowAndFire 6 years, 4 months ago

Flop is fine. Could also be raised sometimes as you hit this flop well and you block 99/JJ that he could hold but call is just fine with 2 overs vs 1/3 bet.

Turn looks close between all options of call/fold/raise. Meaning no option is likely printing money. Raise seems okay. Probably high variance play but if you play rivers correctly you could be make it profitable.

River is a clear fold and you are almost always handing him a stack.

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