Combo Draw vs AA, flop play
Posted by NoHubris
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Combo Draw vs AA, flop play
SB: Joothup: $25
BB: m-lady-lover: $29.28
BN: NoHubris: $51
BB: m-lady-lover: $29.28
BN: NoHubris: $51
Preflop
($0.35)
(3 Players)
NoHubris was dealt
J
9
NoHubris raises to $0.75, Joothup folds, m-lady-lover raises to $2.25, NoHubris calls $1.50
NoHubris raises to $0.75, Joothup folds, m-lady-lover raises to $2.25, NoHubris calls $1.50
Flop
($4.85)
3
8
7
(2 Players)
m-lady-lover bets $3.22,
NoHubris raises to $7.50,
m-lady-lover raises to $27.03, and is all in,
NoHubris calls $19.53
Turn
($62.13)
3
8
7
9
(2 Players)
River
($62.13)
3
8
7
9
7
(2 Players)
He flipped over AcAs, so a flip.
Final Pot
m-lady-lover has
A
A
NoHubris has
J
9
NoHubris
wins $57.66
I think my flop play in this situation was good, especially if I want to balance my range of check-raises between made hands and semi-bluffs.
However, if he had a set on the flop, and the betting goes the same, should I call the all in, considering we're 33.84% to win (2:1) against a set, and we have to call $19.53 to win $38.90? Does our previous bet count as dead money at this point?
I think a call in that situation is in order, since he may show up with an over pair (a flip) and even sometimes just top pair, top kicker, which we are ahead of. Plus, we still have very close to break even odds against the top of his range.
Thanks
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$7.5 is dead money, and belongs to the Pot
If you raise this your not gonna fold anymore, too much equity. 20 to win 40 is even good enough (2:1 , directly what you would need) but he wont have a set too much here since most dont 3b 33,77,88 to 5bet.
Yes your previous bet count to dead money, you have to look at what is the best action at for the moment when you make your decision.
That's what I thought, I simply wanted to make sure. Against top set, our combo draw is 2:1 to win (33.87%), and against aces (what he had) I was about 48% to win. What do you think of my flop play? Is it standard?
Calling is going to be much better, because villain will have more AThh,AJhh... hearts that crush you thatll rip it in. Calling also stregthens your range, and youll be able to bluff a handful of turns if checked to, as well as call any turn if villain continues betting.
I like the flop raise. The board is unlikely to hit the majority of our opponents range and we still have good equity when called. We'd obviously rather be doing the shoving so that we have fold equity but the way this hand played out we don't really get the chance.
If this opponent is prepared to shove with AA I think we can assume he'd also shove hands like KK,QQ,JJ. I stoved a range against this type of opponent and we're getting easily a good enough price to call.
I also looked at a range against an opponent who isn't shoving so many big overpairs but more suited aces,KQs,33 and some 88,77 combos (more like what I would be shoving) and it's getting closer to breakeven but still probably just a call.
No info on villain ? Could help a bit.
I like the flop raise too, it's 3bet pot and we flop FD+GS+2OC, it's kind of a dream flop for us. BTW, even if we are 3handed, I'm not sure villains are 3betting 33/77/88, then his range is more likely something than overpairs/draws and we block some of those draw combos.
I like the way you played it. Would have raised the flop slightly bigger.
Sorry about the info, I don't use PT or HEM at the moment, and didn't see anything that stood out of the ordinary about our villain. The bigger flop raise is to get us more commited in instances where he 3-bets, right?
It certainly makes our decision easier in this exact situation when you 3 bet bigger as you'll be getting better pot odds but mostly it gives our opponent worse odds to continue with marginal hands. I don't think I'd say we want to get more committed especially when we're bluffing but it does make us look more committed.
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