Can we have raising range OTT?
Posted by Kinda Close
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Kinda Close
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Can we have raising range OTT?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BN: $72.18 (Hero)
SB: $25.22
BB: $41.99
UTG: $41.72
MP: $27.91
CO: $13.19
SB: $25.22
BB: $41.99
UTG: $41.72
MP: $27.91
CO: $13.19
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is BN with
A
2
, , , ,
Flop
($3.30)
7
J
J
,
Turn
($6.80)
7
J
J
8
,
River
($13.28)
7
J
J
8
Q
, ,
I want to raise and give him pressure since we're deep OTT.
However, I don't raise w/ my nuts on this spot, so It's hard to balance my range.
Also how about my river bluff?
Any comment would be helpful.
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Pre: Fold or 4bet, imo.
Flop: hard to have a balanced raising range here OTF since our value raises would be JTs to KJs and AJoff /AJs, and 77 while our bluff combos would be too much, imo. Never folding the nutflushdraw tough.
Turn: Same game as OTF, we only now add 88 to possible value range while villain can easily have some trip combos himself, or at least on overpair most of the time+ some T9s combos. I dislike villains size here with any hand, so raising and calling can be fine with good reads.
River. This is a rather obvious bluff line by you, as you only fold out some random AK by villain or hands that you had already beat. Pretty tough for you to find value with worse than a J, you even might wanna check back QQ here.
Dude you just have to be leaking hard re: dealing with 3bets
Simple question: Would you prefer flatting A2s OTB against an open? If not, why calling 3bets with it is better when our implied odds are worse?
Well actually, being this deep, calling is better, but in most scenarios we look at 100bb stacks, and this isnt PLO where you will flop hard very often and position matters a whole lot.
I just dont see how me make much more money by playing marginal hands in low SPR scenarios when villain has a range advantage on almost any board texture despite the connected middle cards. Flop raising becomes pot comitting, floating is very tricky and costly and we overall have less flexibility, less leverage, etc.
Villain had QQ or KK?
Yeah we can have a raising range on this turn. I wouldn't include this hand, just call turn.
River I'm checking back because we dont want to block missed diamonds and ace high when we bluff here.
I prefer raising flop, it gives yus leverage, we wont get rebluffed ever, and even AA should just call, letting us realize our EQ or putting even more pressure OTT. and if not, just call flpo and turn if price is good and dont bluff at any point - looks weak but is still ok, given we have the nutflushdraw.
Wp till the river, and I'd just xb otr.
Even if you wanted to construct a raising range otf/ott, I prob wouldnt include a hand this strong. It can def be done well though.
I think that I slightly prefer raising range otf from theory standpoint and exploitative bluffraising range ott vs most reggy villains
Now I think we can raise KJ+ OTT. Do u think this hand have SDV as well OTT?
OTF I prefer to call him, if you raise him you are going to play an uncontrolled pot and you need to prepare to shot twice any non-Ace turn and/or river
Maybe the opponent is betting with a 7x or a random gutshot?
I can't see many Jx
BTW, what about an overbet instead of 75% after his check OTR?
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