can fold bottom set?

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can fold bottom set?

http://weaktight.com/7341972 invalid handhistory error w/e

villain some good reg 22/20 i know i shouldnt have fastplay OTF, but i would GII OTT anyway..

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shipshipship 10 years, 2 months ago

Without very specific reads that villain has a set every time he takes this line I get in flop all day long. Esp for only 100bb. Villain can show me 88 and I'll still gii

Gay Theory 10 years, 2 months ago

can i go call call call? with this hand.. OTF i dnt need protection and cant take value from anything other then few FDs i guess.. , or KQ..

screamdustry 10 years, 2 months ago

I dont think its good idea vs. his low sizing donkbet. I doubt he gonna fold good TP vs. raise flop so you just gonna loose value.

And +1 to shipship, there is no way to fold your bottom set here, especially if you are preflop raiser and he wont have KK in his range.

oblioo 10 years, 2 months ago

Call villain's flop 3bet then ofc call when he shoves turn. No reason to shove flop yourself as his 3betting range is polarized and you don't want him to fold an AJ/whatever spazz.

sweet16 10 years, 2 months ago

He's not repping anything. If I had a hand (which you do) I would just call his 3b and keep calling. If I didn't have a made hand which we decide to raise vs his donk, I think jamming makes sense since he really don't represent anything for value. So it's nice to just jam pick up a lot of dead money and win the pot like always pretty much. However this is obv not what we want to do when we got a set.

Anht 10 years, 2 months ago

You flop the nuts but when it goes donk raise reraise your hand doesnt look as good. We're hoping for K8s (probably doesnt have k8o in his range), slow played AA and possibly slow played AK both of which are unlikely. Hes extremely unlikely to do this with KQ or worse Kx. We block Ad4d. Also most people elect to call once raised with FDs. He almost never has KK so its basically 88, Adxd, and randomly spews (probably unlikely given you consider him a good reg and his 22/20 stats).

With all that said i think by shoving over a 3bet here youre going to be behind a good percentage of the time. He just doesnt have enough worse hands that can play this way. Also, hes repping a monster by 3betting at stakes where people dont have a balanced flop 3betting range.

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