Can AQs be used for a 5bet/bluff/shove preflop? 50NL Zoom 6Max
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Can AQs be used for a 5bet/bluff/shove preflop? 50NL Zoom 6Max
BN: $89.60
SB: $55
BB: $58.88 (Hero)
UTG: $84.19
HJ: $50
CO: $52.25
SB: $55
BB: $58.88 (Hero)
UTG: $84.19
HJ: $50
CO: $52.25
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $1.50, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, CO raises to $10, Hero raises to $58.88, and is all in
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $1.50, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, CO raises to $10, Hero raises to $58.88, and is all in
Me 22/18/af2.5/3bet6.1 2.8k hands
Him 26/21/af1.8/3bet7.1 4bet 0 CO (Steal 33 / PFR 13) 88 hands
Firstly, how do you read his CO stats because there are two numbers Steal and PFR?
He is passive and his 4bet is zero. Yeah, I know, I know.
Anyway, my honest thought process is that he has me beat pre but my hand blocks AA/QQ/AK and if I shove may be he folds JJ/TT? I know you'd laugh because I'd never fold it but hey he doesn't know me well yet so he might fold for me once?
After I did it, I was thinking to myself, "Is there such thing as 5bet/bluff/shove with AQs?"
Thoughts?
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you got 88 hands from him? this means he is completly unknown. Yeah u block some hand but if u get it in u are allways behind. I think this is a 5 bet bluff shove dont think any wose hands call u dont see any value here. i think u get it in like 90% here behind i would look for better spots to bluff.
Im not always 3betting this hand from the BB.
If I decide to do so tho, I would not fold against his 4b. With the small sizing, IMO you can flatcall comfortably, esp. since you are suited and you dominate a lot of his 4b bluffs + you get great odds.
I dont think people play 4b/call it off with JJ in COvsBB on 50NL...
Yeah, I think I should flat here instead of shoving just taking the odds on what is likely a very strong range preflop.
You CAN use AQs, you can also use 72o the question is whether its profitable to do so. Smaple size is small here. As a standard AQ is too light to shove for value in these spots. Regarding is ability as a 5bet shove bluff hand see the table below
Steal/RFI is when its folded to him. PFR includes those times he 3bets/4bets facing action from UTG/MP
Numbers in the right hand column are 4b bluff freq. for profitable 5bet shove.
AQs
88+,AQ
39.9%
27.3%
TT+,AQ
37.8%
34.2%
88+, AK
37.6%
34.9%
TT+, AK
34.4%
43.2%
JJ+, AK
32.1%
47.9%
QQ+,AK
28.6%
53.6%
KK+,AK
27.8%
54.8%
KK+
25.4%
57.9%
The problem with AQ versus narrow 4bet value/bluff rnages is their bluff frequencies is too low and when they call you crushed.
Sigh, i made a neat little table and it it gets formatted to look like that wth. The bluffing freq. of villain is the bottom number
Thanks for the tip. BTW, he snapped with AKhh. lol......
-Hi, one obvious thing to note is that the deeper you get the better and more credible 5-bet "bluffing" with AQs becomes even though it's not recommended. 100 bb stacks, you don't have any fold equity CO vs Button against hands like jacks+, AK, so it's not recommend either to bluff here.
-I believe in the specific hand you shove for value? Because it is suited it obviously makes it harder to fold even though it should not.
-Without dynamics I would consider just calling preflop and not 3-betting.
-If he had 70 usd stack behind him, I do not think flatting his 4-bet with reads and some plan would be terrible.
I felt that I WAS bluffing here because I kept thinking I block Ace and Queen. However, nice thing about this hand is that it's suited so we have more outs when caught. For instance, I made the absolute nuts on turn on a Axdxdxdxbx board that was unpaired. I just hope I don't get cocky with it as if I played the hand correctly because it is not like I should convince myself to stack off there preflop.
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