BvB oop w/ middle Set
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BvB oop w/ middle Set
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BN: $27.70
SB: $32.42 (Hero)
BB: $54.42
UTG: $71.92
MP: $29.98
CO: $13.44
SB: $32.42 (Hero)
BB: $54.42
UTG: $71.92
MP: $29.98
CO: $13.44
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is SB with
8
8
, ,
Flop
($1.50)
8
K
5
, ,
K-high semi-connected Flop, the plan is to c-bet roughly 40-50% of my hands here oop BvB. I choose to use one sizing ~60% pot as default.
Villain raises Flop and we have basically nuts as KK most likely 3bets pre. FD is out many possible straight draws or gutters and population tends to not value raise thin enough --> I assume this board is overbluffed when flopraised. That is why I only call (to keep (semi-)bluffs in with the plan to x/shove many turns for value.)
1st Question: With given datapoints, do we want to have a 3-betting range otf?
As there are quite a few bad turn cards, especially for a bit weaker hands like 55, K8?
Villain raises Flop and we have basically nuts as KK most likely 3bets pre. FD is out many possible straight draws or gutters and population tends to not value raise thin enough --> I assume this board is overbluffed when flopraised. That is why I only call (to keep (semi-)bluffs in with the plan to x/shove many turns for value.)
1st Question: With given datapoints, do we want to have a 3-betting range otf?
As there are quite a few bad turn cards, especially for a bit weaker hands like 55, K8?
Turn
($7.56)
8
K
5
4
, ,
4d is kinda a bad turn card. Villain might think it is a blank (due to it being a low card) and gives up some low equity bluffs because he does not see enough FE.
Additionally, 76 gets there, which Villain is very possible to have in all its variations with his line. That is why I do not x/shove for value. Ingame I was unsure if Villain folds two pair vs. my shove. Now off table, I think best line could be x/shove as Villain might call most of his two pairs.
Additionally, 76 gets there, which Villain is very possible to have in all its variations with his line. That is why I do not x/shove for value. Ingame I was unsure if Villain folds two pair vs. my shove. Now off table, I think best line could be x/shove as Villain might call most of his two pairs.
River
($18.68)
8
K
5
4
3
,
spade hits OTR. I go for x/decide, probably x/fold.
What do you think about leading 1/3 pot and folding vs shove?
What do you think about leading 1/3 pot and folding vs shove?
Final Pot
SB
wins and shows three of a kind, Eights.
SB wins $17.84
Rake is $0.84
SB wins $17.84
Rake is $0.84
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3b flop is an option
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Raise flop man!
Why? I explained my line, please explain yours :)
Because you want to get value from Kx, weaker two pairs or flush draw, don`t give them cheap turn cards.
So raising me for more than 3x of my 60% bet is "cheap"?
Why do I want to raise vs. those hands otf rather than ott?
You haven't mentioned anything about who Villian is or how he's been playing. You shouldn't play identical vs every player.
If he's the type who only raises for value you should 3bet flop. He says he has a good hand, make it look like a flush draw trying to buy the pot. Maybe to $9-10.
If he's been bluffing often, I like the b/call. Let him fire again on turn. I would not have been so scared on the 4 turn. You specifically took that line to keep his range wide, 76 is possible but only a small portion of his range. However there are now more bad rivers that kill action (spade, 7, 6, prob A would too). Would have stuck with your plan to c/r for value. Unless he's crazy and will barrel 3x no matter what comes
I think calling the flop is ok. What do you do with your FDs/OESDs/combo draws/ AA/strong Kx in this spot. If you're calling here it's good to protect that range with the nuts.
However:
Villain can have K8 (16 combos), K5s (2 combos), 55(3), 67(16) , AT-A2s(8), QJ-Q7(4), JT-J7(3), T9-T7(2), 97s(1j, 65s(1), random air(3) lets say... fairly tight raising range
21 combos made hands
35 combos draws
3 air
This range will likely call or jam vs a 3bet on the flop and a lot of the draws have decent eq vs your holding.
As there's not much air in villains range (unless you have a read that V is a spaz) I think I prefer this option.
You can then jam most turns apart from 4s and 9s I reckon.
As played I would get it in on this turn, sure 67 is in villains range 16/59 (27%) but there are so many river cards that will kill your action that I think I would prefer jamming.
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