Bluffing River
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Bluffing River
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players)
BN: $62.36
SB: $16.71 (Hero)
BB: $13.76
UTG: $11.16
MP: $10.00
CO: $9.85
SB: $16.71 (Hero)
BB: $13.76
UTG: $11.16
MP: $10.00
CO: $9.85
Preflop
($0.15)
Hero is SB with
Q
A
, , , , ,
Flop
($2.10)
6
T
3
,
Turn
($3.50)
6
T
3
K
,
River
($7.10)
6
T
3
K
9
Hello,
I am trying to understand bluffing river spots and use of blockers so i post this hand.
villain stats in 226 hands are 22/21/3b-10 / 4b-8, yes he actually has a 4b range which is cool and seems to be a thinking player.
I am playing a ton of 3bet hands and I give up rivers most of the time, which is costing me money . I am pretty sure in this hand we got lucky and got a fold since this river is bad right??
he has all sets, 66-TT, TKs but ok he would have raised them at some point, he has TJc,T9c clubs where he now has 2 pairs, also QJc,?
We block QQ, QJd but would be better to have Qclubs, and its good we dont have Aof clubs.. right?
So what is he getting with to river and what do we make him fold?
thank you
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Assuming you're playing 3bet or fold from the SB and have made a range bet on the flop, you'd reach the turn with something like: 99+, AJo+, KQo, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs.
Out of these I think the only hands you'd reach the river with which are still bluffs are AJ and AQ. The rest of the hands are either value bets or have too much SDV to bluff with. I think AJ and AQ function fairly well as bluffs, with AQ blocking QJs, AK (which may be 4bet by villain sometimes) and KQ. You could choose to bluff any of the combos without a club so you unblock the BDFD. It's hard to block the sets as any combos you have which would block them would probably have too much SDV to bluff with.
This would be 18 combos, and assuming you're value betting JQs (4), TT (3), KK (3), AA (6) and AK (12), should remain fairly balanced, although some combos of AJ could be shaved off and you'd need to size up a little.
One problem is that both AJ and AQ block combos he would get to the river with but now give up with - JTs, QTs and ATs, although he may not flat some of these in the first place vs the 3bet, and there are very few combos of these so I don't think it matters
thank you for your comment, full of details.
Yes i do play 3b/fold from Sb, but will not have many AJo or KQo vs HJ.
could you explain the size up a little part?
thank you!!
That range I had suggested is a little loose, so if you shave the AJ combos off then naturally I think AQ is the only true bluff you'll have left in your range.
This could be wrong but I think there are some videos in the bluffing section in the learning paths which should explain if I am. For an opponent to be indifferent to calling on the river, for a pot sized bet you should have 1 bluff for every 2 value combos. If we use the 18 combos of non club AJ and AQ, and value bet the combos I mentioned above, you would have 18 bluffs : 28 value bets, so over the 1:2 ratio, so to keep your opponent indifferent to calling you should make a greater than pot sized bet. Having said this I think using all 18 combos would be overbluffing.
The general idea is that the more you're bluffing, the worse price you should offer villain, so that he's less incentivised to call.
You have to find bluffs with some hands if you want to play balanced. When you do you have to pick the ones with best blocker , this one seems good. wp
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