BB vs BU 3bet with a lot of hands

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BB vs BU 3bet with a lot of hands

Hi

We are on BB and we are facing BTN steal. We have very big sample on opponent. How we should create our range specificly to opponent?

We create gameplan

We have aggresive games so we 3bet for "value" AJ+ KQ 99+. This is 7.54%. Not to be exploitable, we assume that BTB open 2bb, BB 3bet 8bb, BU 4bet 15BB, so we need to proceed 44,68%. So if value range is 7.54% which is 44,68% we add 9,33% bluffs. 

So we have our standard unexploitable range.

How we should modify our range if we know opponents fold BTNvsBB to 3bet and BU opening range? 


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gbtl 11 years ago

many of the hands you are 3-betting are callable. Like 67s or 85s. I guess it's ok to mix in some of them from time to time. You can probably widen your value range too to include 88, and you can add some off-suit bluffs like 76o

Adasiek 11 years ago

This is approximation. I just am curious for example how we should build 3bet range to guy who is opening on button 70% and folding to 3bet 70% and for example guy who is opening 55% and folding 60% to 3bet. Should we wide our range vs guys who folds more? How should we pick bluff/value ratio vs different fold to 3bets>


Duttywinee 10 years, 11 months ago

I'd like to pose my thoughts.

[Optimum calling 3bet range is approximately 20-33% according to 'Leakbuster']

If a player is opening the button 70% then an estimation of his range is:
22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 93s+, 84s+, 74s+, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, A2o+, K2o+, Q3o+, J5o+, T6o+, 96o+, 86o+, 76o. 930 hand combinations. 

If he folds to 3bets 70% he would be left with approximately:
(1-0.7)*930 = 279 combinations 
=66+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo.

If a player is opening the button 55% then an estimation of his range is: 
22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J3s+, T4s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, A2o+, K5o+, Q6o+, J7o+, T8o+, 97o+, 87o. 738 hand combinations. 

If he folds to 3bets 60% he would be left with approximately:
(1-0.6)*738= 295 combinations
This would look very similar to the previous estimated range with speculated extra hands such as suited kings, suited two-gapped connectors, unsuited aces. 

Comments:
-Regardless of the disparity in the opening ranges, due to their folding % the tighter opener actually has a wider calling range. 
-This calling range vs an estimated 3bet of 5-8.5% isn't profitable!



To actually answer your question is requiring hitting the fundamentals of +ev blind play. I would recommend purchasing, calculating or reading some material to increase your knowledge on this spot, to create some ranges and then refine your question. 






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