Awkward river SPR TPTK 3 bet pot. 100nl

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Awkward river SPR TPTK 3 bet pot. 100nl

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CO is a 25/20 decent reg raising 27% so far from CO. Folds to 3 bet IP 33%. BTN is likely a rec player. running 30/21 over the last 35 hands. I should have bet 32$ then its probably easy all in OTR. Now that I ve made this error whats the best sizing OTR? Shoving seems dubious as we probably can t rep enough bluffs. How about underbetting like 40$? If so what to do vs a raise?

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thedoors 12 years, 1 month ago
since the board is really not drawy i would split my bet turn and river so i would do 30 turn and 70 river (1/3 pot and 1/2 river)
vs a raise from reg i would shove , i epxct him to bet flop bettr hands than us
vs a raise from recreationnal i would fold without info ,of him being very agro, puting him on 7, dont expect a recreationnal to raise ip worse than TPTK deep
BigFiszh 12 years, 1 month ago
I´m pretty sure that all hands that call you will bet the river themselves, so you could x/r the river and rep some turn-stabs with overs (by checking) and then levelling him into a "WTF"-call with AJ/AQ.

We have to consider though that it´s not that unlikely that CO slowplayed a monster on the flop. Would´ve you expected him to stab the flop with naked overs (Ax) 3-way?

But at the end, if we bet/call anyways the result of b/c and x/r is the same - with the difference that we get all against worse hands, what betting won´t accomplish.
John Morrey 12 years, 1 month ago
Stacks are really awkward and this seems like a thinish VB.
John Morrey 12 years, 1 month ago
I honestly dunno what to do. I kinda hate shoving cause the VB is thin, I kinda hate betting cause it commits us, and I kinda hate checking at all cause he checks back at least some hands he might call with.

WM2K 12 years, 1 month ago
In the end we can go back and forth about what to do OTR. Its a shitty spot and thats all there is too it. The mistake is OTT. Its a clearly larger bet to like 32$ and then we re not here going meh OTR. We can defo rep some kind of missed broadways with that line as well and AQ at least has to consider a call OTR.

I bet 40$ he shoved, I swore and wished i had played the turn better. I think due to history with this villain its a fold but I donked it up and called. He showed 88.
thedoors 12 years, 1 month ago
i need very solid red to fold TPTK on dry board 3bet pot 120deep, you surely can play better turn but dont see a fold river , 88 is a cooler to me
but
preflop he has to add 11 to win a stack of 120 thats 10:1, he s ip to it looks a good spot to setmine if youre not a crazy squeezer
so maybe you should suqeez bigger here
WM2K 12 years, 1 month ago
We re 140bb deep :(. I don t think you can really prevent the setmining problem. I think best is to play better postlfop :D.
thedoors 12 years, 1 month ago
sorry i looked btn stakks,
that totally change my opinion i would bet fold river and not tryning to stak off turn so finally like your turn betsize, i want to pot control TPTK 160 deep vs a decent reg
we cant prevent but 160deep i definitely thinks we should suqeez bigger with our whole range
i agree postflop pb is more important
John Morrey 12 years, 1 month ago
I definitely think if u bet 40 and he shoves u are almost always beat. He has 7-10 combos of nuts and only 6 combos of AQ so the bet might even be too thin to make. I so agree a larger turn bet is best but not so much to size a river shove but because that's the street we get our value on.
WM2K 12 years, 1 month ago
he ll have 8 combos of AQ, 2 combos of AJs. I agree that betting turn/jamming river is thin but c/f river seems really gross and you should be able to ship this for value.

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