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AQ in 3bpot oop

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AQ in 3bpot oop

BN: $39.67
SB: $25.45
BB: $21.38
UTG: $25 (Hero)
HJ: $25.48
CO: $13.55
Villain unknown
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt Q A
Hero raises to $0.87, HJ raises to $3.10, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $2.23
Sometimes I fold this vs 3b pre
Flop ($6.55) 4 A 3 (2 Players)
Hero checks, HJ checks
Turn ($6.55) 4 A 3 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets $4, HJ calls $4
River ($14.55) 4 A 3 9 5 (2 Players)
Hero bets $9, HJ calls $9
Is it too thin?

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Knoxox 10 years, 6 months ago

I think calling is close preflop. Postflop I probably x/c the turn and reevaluate the river. River might be too thin. I don't think he has AJ and a lot of his Ax bluffs now got 2 pair or a straight.

Knoxox 10 years, 6 months ago

Value from what? 3bets MPvsUTG are pretty polarized (at 25nl they are often only value) so I don't expect him to have AJ (even AQ). 

You're probably only getting one bet from QQ-KK or low Ax. So x/c is fine, if he xb you could bet the river.

cpau 10 years, 6 months ago

good point about his Ax bluff that now gets 2pairs OTR. I really the str8 his in his range tho. 


Agree with you on the close call preflop. I would 4bet AQ more often than not in this spot - It has really good blockers to AA, QQ and AK. Im interested in your 3bet calling range utg vs mid 3bet ? 

moushjak 10 years, 6 months ago

"His range is JJ+ AJ+ Some random Axs. I do not cbet because I didn't have the initiative."

So OTF he has 46 combos at all. Witch consist of:

1 comb of set(AA),

2 comb of 2 pair(A3s),

14 comb of TP with kicker worse than ours,

and 2 comb of TP with gutshot(A5s).


19 comb value instead of 23 comb that we dominate.

With this range, I think we get default value-bet OTF.


Knoxox 10 years, 6 months ago

I don't think his range is going to be that wide. (I think QQ+, AK & maybe AQ & some Axs). 

What do you do on the turn when called? Bet again? Then what on the river?

If you check the turn, villain could just bet turn / jam river with his entire range and you have to fold.

moushjak 10 years, 6 months ago
knoxox, if it question to me, I would not call AQo pre against QQ+, AK+ & maybe AQ & some Axs. I don't think that I can get many value from that situation on micro especially against unknown opponent. I'm wrong?


Knoxox 10 years, 6 months ago

But I mean against his range. (the JJ+ & AJ+ & Axs)

I probably also only call some combos of JJ+ & AK if I would have a callingrange. I'm 4betting AQ.


cpau 10 years, 6 months ago

moushjak - Would you donk with TT-KK here ? FDs ? Because if you dont donk those hands too, your checking range is too weak and you're easy to play against. I think that if you want to have a donking range in this spot, it should be your entire continuig range that donk OTF. 

moushjak 10 years, 6 months ago

TT - no, JJ-QQ - likely yes, KK - I would play 4Bet all-in preflop. And I have no FD in 3b calling range from UTG.

At Zoom micros I try c/r only with nuts or combodro with tons of equity for value, an usually being called only by other nuts. Because I guess that opponents rarely thinking about ranges and usually looking only in their own cards.


Wysedroid 10 years, 6 months ago

The preflop decision is your own....It *is* quite a big 3bt to be calling oop, which we will have to xf often on flop......  If your opp is a complete donkey then calling preflop is fine as you will have him dominated, etc, etc.  Is he aggressive?  Passive? Barrel a lot?  These all matter post-flop w a hand like this oop.

Post-flop you played it perfect.  Donking flop gives him too much info and doesnt let him bluff (which, depending on the opp as said preflop, we will prob xc down w this hand).  When he x's back we take the lead and bet twice into him not letting him off the hook.  Take the aggressive line!  Dont x and let him x back his TT-KK and worse A's.  You cant be 'afraid' of what he could have hit- you VB your great hand for a 3bt pot (again, this is dependent on opp) and put the decision on your opp.  Let him fear 3bting YOU in the future.....

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