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Application of minDEF Freq

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Application of minDEF Freq

I'm misunderstanding the concept, and am looking for help. From my understanding, and from Lefort's vids, we need to defend at a certain minimum frequency to prevent our opponent from auto profiting. We choose to usually defend wider than minimum because at around the minimum frequency, our opponent isn't auto profiting with the very bottom of his range, and we have equity in the hand. Essentially, this is why vs a minr HU, we choose to defend much wider than the 1-A min def of 50%.

It'll be easier to post a specific HH I had in mind.

100bb stacks, HU.

We minr Td9s, BB 3b 9x, we call.

9d 4s 4h flop, BB half pots, we call.

I have our range at ~38%-8%, and plugged this range into PPT. We have roughly 365 hands. BB cbet's half pot (1-A=.66), and we call.  We should defend at least .66*365=243 hands that call the flop. I deleted the hands with the lowest equity until I reached 243 hands. 

6c turn, BB half pots, we call.

1-A again is .66, and we are looking to call 243*.66=162 at the minimum. Repeat process for the flop. 

2c river, BB jams, we call. 1-A is .527, and we need to call .527*162=~85 hands. I'm failry certain PPT removes combos with the board input, and our finaly minDEF range of 85hands: Ax9x,Ax4x,Ax9y,Kx9x,Kx4x,Kx9y,Qx9x,Qx4x,Qx9y,Jx9x,Jx9y,Tx9y,Tx9x,9x8x,9x7x,88,66,44,22.

This was 100% of our 9x we had from our preflop range, all 4x, and all quads/FHs, as well at our 88 combos. Now, what does this all really mean? What can we derive from this?

On the river, it is 322.5 into a pot of 360, and we need to be good ~31% of the time. I went from BB range and started plugging in hands and running equity, until SB had ~31% equity. BB range looked like: AA-99,Ax4x,Kx9x,8x7x,8x6x,7x5x,7x4x,66,6x4x,5x4x,4x3x and was based off a 22% 3b range. I took out some J9s strength hands from a river jamming range, and left a few bluffs in.

Since we know what SB has to defend with, what do we want to do from BBs standpoint? We just bet anything with over 50% equity? If SB isn't defending enough (maybe SB is raising some trips or something earlier in the hand), then as BB we should be firing the river a ton? 

Is there an easier way to do this analysis in PPT or CREV?

This is mainly for readless players, or the one really good player at the table where I'm not making any $ from. I'm butchering a bunch of concepts at once, so hopefully someone can straighten me out.

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freefalling80 11 years, 3 months ago

As BB you want to bet the hands that have greater than 50 % equity vrs his calling range only not his entire river range because he wont call with half of his entire river range and you also want to have a check call range and if you bet all your hands with more the 50% equity what will your checking range look like?  he will have a very easy time vrs your river checks because you will be check folding

mplecki23 11 years, 3 months ago

ah yes, looking at SB entire river range vs his call range would probably help. I would think that if we don't have 50% as the BB vs his entire river range we can be looking to get 3 streets with the bottom of BBs value range. For having a river x/c range, it's probably debatable and more exploitive based. I could be wrong, tho.

freefalling80 11 years, 3 months ago

I hope you get some responses to this.  great ? i'm not sure how to figure out this exactly hope some theory junkies come and help both of us, just wanted to give you some things to think about


mplecki23 11 years, 3 months ago

I talked a bit with a friend. He thought this board/runout will just naturall favor the 3bettors range, and as a result BB will just make more money.

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