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Am I a calling station in this hand?

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Am I a calling station in this hand?

Maybe not a very interesting hand. In fact, the situation comes up very often. I'm curious what would you do in this case against a regular (a balanced player). Please don't be result oriented. Thanks in advance.

This is a 200NL hand. Villain is a multi-tabling regular, doesn't play too many pots. Not much other read.

CO (198)

HJ (80)

BN (220) Villain

SB (260)

BB (180) Hero

Preflop (3): BB was dealt QsJh. CO folded, HJ folded, BN raised to 6. SB folded. BB called.

Flop (13): 7h8hJs. BB checked, BN bet 10, BB called.

Turn (33): 3c. BB checked, BN bet 26, BB called.

River (85): 2s. BB checked, BN bet 65. BB called. BN showed AcAd and took down the pot.

Would you play it differently? If yes, how?

My reasoning at that time was that I beat his missed straight draws and flush draws. However, as I read some of the members' posts, my range is "capped". If I understand it right, it means that I can't have a big hand here, such as 9T, JJ, 77, 88, AA. So if the villain knows that, he can value bet all his over pairs and TPTK. So in this case, the "standard" play should be a fold in the river?




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Chael Sonnen 10 years, 10 months ago

Calling down isn't terrible, but I'd fold here for sure.
T9 was a straight on the flop, so he only has 56 (perhaps only 56s) and QT/Q9. A lot of his flush draws can have a pair, so they wouldn't need to bluff.

He also has 77/88/JJ/AJ/KJ/J8/J7/78/QQ/KK that beat you, so I doubt he's bluffing enough to make you indifferent here.

Also, your range isn't that capped. You probably have 77/88/J7/78 in your range, and occasionally even the nuts. If you notice you get owned a lot in these spots, try slowplaying more hands that can call down more comfortably.



Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 10 months ago

I would even fold pre and choose to 3b as a bluff some random Ax, KTo+. QJo is a hand that when flops tp often enough against 3 barrell you are outkicked. His sizings are pretty huge for calling down QJ there, when a reasonable player don't have a wide bluffing range on this spot.

Mike Y 10 years, 10 months ago
Yeah. My default play is to fold pre. At the time of the game, I was curious how the villain plays his cards, because I was playing him in multiple tables. So I figure I chose this one to explore his play. I guess I could have done so by observing him playing against others or by choosing a better hand to call/3bet.

Thanks Rapheal.

Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 10 months ago

I'm pretty ok on flatting pre, I'm not saying I never do it. Considering that we close the action and against some players who open J9, Q9 from the BTN we are doing well. In a overall three street game 100bb deep I rather have a plan than defend QJo and play a hand that not often enough we can not realise our equity, the nutty hands that it makes are action killers and we can't have two streets or more of value. 

In general, if I fold QJo I'm folding too much to his steal but the way I construct my overall range I rather include hands where I can play aggressive post flop and can take some heat than a hand that our equity realisation is poor. I rather defend 43s than Qjo, for example. But it is my way of thinking post flop game and I'm not saying it is right, it is just preference.

Chael, what kinda of situation you think QJo is a good candidate to x/r flop or turn ?



Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 10 months ago

By defend I don't mean just flat, is to play actually. Having a BB flatting range is probably best than not (I will try to figure out it sometime). Why 43s is a mandatory 3b or fold ? lol

QJo is a hand that limits a lot your post flop playable strategy. Since doesn't make sense to x/r OTF or OTT in almost any board and also some x/c-lead, x/c-x/c-x/r, lead strategies can't be well performed with this hand actually.

x/r this board with QJ just makes better continue and worse fold.

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