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AKo, sqz pot.

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AKo, sqz pot.

Both are regs. When the btn calls his range is kind of capped to weak suited broadways and pp. Flop is better for us and I wasnt sure about the size and I went for a small one witch is proabably a mistake, but not a big one. Once he calls he his range looks something weak tp, some 9x, 8x, sets, straights and some draws. Ott being oop on a drawy board I didnt knew what size to chose and went all in, its a good thing that we dont have the As. What do you think?

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RoleTide 4 years, 2 months ago

When the btn calls his range is kind of capped to weak suited broadways and pp.

So why are you cbetting a flop that crushes his range when you don't even have good back door equity? Do you think he is folding any suited broadways or pocket pairs to you small flop cbet?

robbo 4 years, 2 months ago

Tricky one.
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I would say flop is better for him, he lacks QQ+. But his range is likely very heavy around 88-99 AQ and Maybe some suited broadways. Against a big squueze he shouldn’t have many low pairs, They shouldnt call 3bb rfi to begin if he’s playing good.
I would do alot of checking because of that, biggest reason that 88/99 is such a part of his range.
Ott its dicey, i get the idea behind jamming to deny equity from pair+draws. But you are obviously getting snapped by 88/99/AQ alot. It feels like putting in abit too much bbs in the pot, it’s a though board.

RaoulFlush 4 years, 2 months ago

Agree that the flop might be kind neutral for both parties at best. Im also not a fan of the cbet due to that. Might fire here holding a spade. But even then its close...

maco 4 years, 2 months ago

I agree with you guys. I expected him to 3bet preflop with hands like 88+ and ATs+, but I forget that not all regs play the same.

robbo 4 years, 2 months ago

maco yeah it’s Pretty hard to know his range, if we know He’s defending low pairs and all sorts of broadways in This spot it becomes much more cbetted. Taking notes at showdowns is Pretty helpfull.
If he have very low fold to sqz/3bet you are doing better, if he folds much you’re in More trouble here..

fightfight 4 years, 2 months ago

at first glance I liked the turn shove.

wanting to be polar on the turn, I think AK is strong enough to be part of the value hands. SPR also low enough that it seems fine.

interested to see what others said.

in response to what others said: would be not be squeezing 88, 99, here?
JT is really the only hand I wouldn't have. That being said, maybe it's relevant enough to force checks. specific combo AK on the flop is looking grim, does not feel like a hand I'd want to check call, and I think our range on this board for sb squeeze is just fine for a range bet. no?

in the 33bb pot a check call range on such a dynamic board seems extremely painful to play, at the least, and maybe even technically bad. maybe we need to do that though?
im tempted to avoid having that difficult decision by playing the range bet too. many hands do not want to fold their equity, and they also don't want to check call. maybe that's a leak of my own, though? but the real question is what we do with that range on the turn, and especially this ace

turn jam seems fine for me with the AK, but now I am wondering if it is desirable action for our range against villains range. it plays easily, for value and bluffs, but maybe leaves too many hands with good equity in no mans land, and maybe villain has not many hands that are folding so easily. it would not surprise me if as played our turn range had a lot of jams. but saying that I have no information on villains range.

interesting questions come to me:
1. value of check raises in this scenario?
perhaps even a full check flop followed by many check raises could be nice.
or range bet OTF, checking brick turns to x/r?
verrry thinking spot here, thanks for post.

LetEmKnow 4 years, 2 months ago

think this hand is fine cbet at some freq, yes it will hit a chunk of their range but it hits yours a lot as well, assuming they do not pure flat JT/88/99 pre then you're at a nuts advantage and still have all the fds, overpairs, pair plus sds, etc...they presumably have smaller pps in their range that have to fold vs a cbet which is great for AK...once you arrive to the turn you're left no choice but to rip it here and deny equity from pair plus draws...spr is 1 so checking does nothing but let them realize equity and they're likely to have a low stab freq on the turn so you do not gain ev that way either...think you played the hand fine

zinom1 4 years, 2 months ago

Our range on flop is pretty condensed imo which means we should play pretty passive. Given all the protection you get shoving turn, you dont need 50%+ equity vs his calling range, but you still need probably 40% atleast otherwise checking is better.

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