AA line check. easy fold on the riv?
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AA line check. easy fold on the riv?
BN: $201 (Hero)
SB: $325.91
BB: $215.32
UTG: $225.42
HJ: $1905.35
CO: $200
SB: $325.91
BB: $215.32
UTG: $225.42
HJ: $1905.35
CO: $200
vallain is unknown.
Preflop
($3.00)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $5, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $46, BB folds, CO folds, Hero calls $28
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $5, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $46, BB folds, CO folds, Hero calls $28
Flop
($100.00)
6
T
K
(2 Players)
SB bets $27,
Hero calls $27
Turn
($154.00)
6
T
K
Q
(2 Players)
SB checks,
Hero checks
River
($154.00)
6
T
K
Q
2
(2 Players)
SB bets $252.91, and is all in
given how bad the board runout is, i dont think we can call AA here, but we do beat AK, given his flop sizing, i think he might bet bigger with AK, thought?
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One of the worst runouts, so I'm folding.
Well yeah a river fold is fine but pf is fps imo. There is not much if any ev you gain from flating pre just do the std shove imo.
Fold postflop is fine, your line looks good. Preflop is way too cute against an unknown villain, just get it in.
like your line, snap river now. How can you even think about folding? You are going to have a ton of AQ/AK hands here, it seems rlyrly insane to fold AA, also villain could easily be vbeting AK
agree with matus, i mean i agree that the turn is a bad card for our actual hand, but for our range it´s not that bad at all and we got a lot of pair + draw or pair + gutshot. if we dont turn that hands into a semibluff on the turn, which i wouldnt, i dont see why villain would be not shoving pretty much all hands that beat AA on the turn to not let us realize our equity. the best hand in our range that checks back the turn and doesnt shove is probably KJ or maybe AK, but we wont play all AK preflop like this or at least he wont expect it, so it makes a lot of sence for villain to shove AK for value.
river fold is fine.
But dont like the preflop play, I think it's better 5bet preflop and easy allin at flop.
I think that if we had some stats on the villain it would be a lot easier to analyze. Can you tell us anything about his play? TAG / LAG / NIT ? By the way he played this hand I'm thinking he was a LAG and I might put his preflop range anywhere between 55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+. Would you agree that this is around the range of what he might have given his style? If this was his range then he would be a 3:1 underdog so Imo I think that a 5bet or shove after his 4bet is the most optimal +EV play preflop. After all.. what are you afraid he'll flip over? Or did you think that he wouldn't call if you continued to raise?
I think he might have thought you were trying to squeeze on the button / had seen you do it one too many times at this point? On the flop he probes for 27$ in a 100$ pot.. Do you really think he has even top pair here? After betting that heavy preflop is he going to just c-bet a 1/4 pot barrel with top pair? I have my doubts tbh. Even if hes got A10 (and I highly doubt it given this bet sizing) and looking for that queen you've still got 84% equity at this point. So why not reraise here?
Then the turn comes and he checks to see if you've improved and you just check back confirming to him that you haven't so he jams the river with what seems like a Q at best, but I'm almost certain its not even that good given how he played the hand with no protection / blockers and didn't even try to massage the pot.. It is possible that he had KK or 10s / or maybe even K10s or KQs, or AQ or AK but it looks really unlikely. It just seems like you were convinced that he had your aces beat the whole way through for some reason.. And it became a self-fulfilling prophecy unfortunately
As many said above... just 5b/AI vs unknown. I don`t know why would you complicate to play post-flop vs an opponent that you know nothing about.
After we flat... I think calling on flop is ok... but I would never check back that turn, you are just loosing so much money against hands like KJ, AQ,JJ that would call you on turn. So yeah, I`m betting turn... if you get check/raised on turn I think you can fold and don't worry to much about it. The way the hand was played, I won't expect villain to have to many bluff(or semi-bluff) raises on turn
I dont think this hand is a very very clear fold, first of all i think that villain overshove river is pretty polarized (he never bets AK this size) so i would like to know his cold4bet stat (to see his frecuency in this spot and because of that his potential hands in his bluffing range) and his fold4bet stat (to see if he is the type of player that use to polarized a lot in his strategys, perhaps in this spot he never polarizeds cos he is oop,we dont know), i think that a very good opponent can exploit us in this river because when we check back turn we dont have a lot of hands to call the river with.
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