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AA in 3bet pot vs flop donk and river shove

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AA in 3bet pot vs flop donk and river shove

BN: halliemallie: $48.52
SB: Artbest1: $41.50
BB: Mozus66: $53.74
UTG: karimhk: $50
UTG1: ozazello: $66.61
UTG2: wordsmt: $95.07
LJ: PIankton: $37.05
HJ: Perdurabo933: $43.27
CO: Lapdancez: $53.42
Preflop ($0.75) (9 Players)
Lapdancez was dealt A A
karimhk folds, ozazello folds, wordsmt raises to $1.50, PIankton calls $1.50, Perdurabo933 folds, Lapdancez raises to $6.25, halliemallie folds, Artbest1 folds, Mozus66 folds, wordsmt calls $4.75, PIankton calls $4.75
Flop ($19.50) 5 8 3 (3 Players)
wordsmt bets $10, PIankton folds, Lapdancez calls $10
Turn ($39.50) 5 8 3 6 (2 Players)
wordsmt checks, Lapdancez checks
River ($39.50) 5 8 3 6 8 (2 Players)
wordsmt bets $37.75, Lapdancez calls $37.17, and is all in
Final Pot
wordsmt has 8 8 Lapdancez has A A wordsmt wins $111.34

Hi everybody,

What is your standard play here on the river vs an unknown? call or fold? 

Given that our opponent didn't 4 bet pre whit 1 player left behind to act i think its fairly unlikely for him to have KK,

He might have QQ-22,AK,AQs  if he's a tight player which is more likely imo on 9 max tables. 

When he donks on the flop i put him on either a flushdraw (Aks), QQ,JJ,TT or a set. Im not sure what the reasoning 

behind donking with QQ-TT would be. when he checks on the turn he is either trapping with a set or checking for pot control/giving up with an overpair imo. 

River is an 8 which made me think he either shoves 55, 33, and maybe QQ,JJ but the more i think of it i think QQ,JJ obv. check the river

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BigFiszh 11 years, 10 months ago

I probably had just shipped the turn. There´s no advantage of letting him see free river. As played it´s pretty damn hard for him to bluff so you could actually fold, I guess.

By the way - better leave out results, it´s likely influencing the comments you´ll get.

WM2K 11 years, 10 months ago

Ya I d raise flop or ship the turn. I really don t get the turn check and then the river call. What kind of ranges are you putting villain on? Seems pretty inconsistent.

Lapdancez 11 years, 10 months ago

Thanks for your help, i will try to hide results in the future as recommended :D. I checked the turn because i thought he would double barrel Flushdraws and the range for his check is either a trap or an weaker overpair and i wasn't sure if he'd call a bet so i guess i was planning to fire a small value bet otr if he double checks.

The river call is very bad as played i agree, but mistakes happen i wasn't thinking sharp enough while playing. His range for shoving river almost allways beats my hand since he would prob. check with weaker overpairs.

I usually play 6 max and i'm not into the flow of 9 max that much anymore but i remember it as very tight that's why i put him on such a narrow range. Against a tougher opponent at a 6.max table the turn shove is very clear i agree since he could have a wider range with more potential outs here.


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