99 vs 2 opponents
Posted by fidelinos
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99 vs 2 opponents
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players)
BN: $9.34
SB: $4.94
BB: $3.26
UTG: $5.65
MP: $9.37 (Hero)
CO: $6.14
SB: $4.94
BB: $3.26
UTG: $5.65
MP: $9.37 (Hero)
CO: $6.14
Preflop
($0.07)
Hero is MP with
9
9
, , , , ,
Flop
($0.41)
7
3
Q
, , ,
cb flop trying to end it right there
I think flop is ok for Cbeting, but not sure if vs 2 opponents ( 25% of the time both will fold-right)
I think flop is ok for Cbeting, but not sure if vs 2 opponents ( 25% of the time both will fold-right)
Turn
($0.81)
7
3
Q
4
,
since sb called and turn was not in my range , decided to check back
River
($0.81)
7
3
Q
4
J
,
his bet size can mean air or strong hand -
decided to fold
decided to fold
reason i posted the hand is :
- cb flop vs 2 opponents would make sense only if i had a strong hand or i could improve right?
- turn card has to stop me from betting right ? i don't represent something that improved with a 4
So picking spots to cb flop vs 2 opponents need a strong hand right, or draw.
any idea other than folding on river?
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Rvr is a little gross with that sizing might look him up sometimes maybe hes blockbetting 7x,88 need to win 1 in 5 times.
He can be bluffing with missed flushdraws and his bet is so small I think you just have to call here with 99 without a diamond. What range do you get to the river with like this? I think 99 would be quite high in your range, no?
hope didn't misunderstand but i don't see how 99 is strong here in order to call
I don't really expect an unknown at 5NL to be bluffing with a busted FD, especially for this size.
In this spot, 99 is essentially a bluff-catcher.
I think 99 is high in your range OTR because you checked back a blank turn after cbetting the flop. What better hands do you do this with?
I think that you played hand well.
C-betting the flop is fine. There is a lot of value to be had. There are a lot FD combinations and lower pairs and even the occasional gutters that may opt to float. As well as this, it also disguises your hand. Checking (presumably check/calling) here gives a lot of information about your hand away.
You could definitely consider a thin value bet on the turn. If the button had called, I'd check, as in that case the button should have a stronger range. However, the SB has a wider range here than you might think (they are closing the action on the flop). Also, SB calling ranges have a lot of pocket pairs, which he can definitely still have on the turn. A thin value bet on the turn would get value from these should they call and would pretty much guarantee that you get to showdown.
The river fold is completely fine. All of their value hands beat you (they are not betting worse than a Jack, maybe even a Queen, here) and players at 5NL don't tend to bluff rivers with bet-sizing like this.
Most SB calling ranges are broadway heavy and don't have the lowest pocket pairs. I thing OP is value owning himself against queens way more often than getting called by worse pocket pairs with 2 cbets.
Think of how many combo's of queens and how few lower pairs SB can have when 77 44 and 33 are sets...
Resolve: I find SB ranges are more pocket-pair heavy. The Broadways that you talk about are typically 3-bet, from my experience, rather than calling OOP.
GameTheory: As this is 5NL, we shouldn't be too concerned about opponents picking up on this and floating with a wide range.
If you fold this river, how wide could your opponents float here?
Against this (wide) range, how high up in your range is 99 on this runout?
Flop bet size is too large if you want to include underpairs, but you shouldn't really bet underpairs MW with a BTN flat in the pot anyways. If BTN has a strong flatting range like 12% or less it's probably a good idea to not cbet any hand on Qxx flops. With a loose BTN caller (i.e. fish) it's probably fine to cbet some overpairs, TPGK and 2pair+ with the occasional 2nd pair type hand, but betting too many of those leaves your checking range really weak.
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