5nlz: AKs from the BB vs BTN, 3B Pot
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5nlz: AKs from the BB vs BTN, 3B Pot
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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
SB ($27.78) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HERO ($5.99) [VPIP: 23.4% | PFR: 16.6% | AGG: 32.6% | Flop Agg: 34.8% | Turn Agg: 37.6% | River Agg: 18.9% | 3-Bet: 5.1% | Fold to 3-Bet: 67.4% | 4-Bet: 14% | Hands: 1776]
UTG ($2.39) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HJ ($9.84) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
CO ($5) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
BTN ($5.79) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 100% | AGG: 33.3% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
Dealt to Hero: Ks As
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.15, SB Folds, HERO Raises To $0.60, BTN Calls $0.45
Hero SPR on Flop: [4.25 effective]
Flop ($1.22): Ad 3s Ah
HERO Checks, BTN Checks
Turn ($1.22): Ad 3s Ah Js
HERO Bets $0.50 (Rem. Stack: $4.89), BTN Raises To $1.58 (Rem. Stack: $3.61), HERO ???
Anonymous 5nlz pool. Of course, no info on villain.
Villain should be calling a BB 3B from the BTN with JJ-22,AQs-A2s,K9s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T7s+,97s+,87s,76s,65s,AQo-ATo,KTo+,Q9o+,JTo
My AKs has ~64% equity vs this range preflop. Once the flop comes down, I check OOP because I feel that there is a lot he's going to bet out on and we're happy to get as much money into the pot now as possible. A bet of any kind turns our hand face up and I believe denies us a chance at a bigger pot. Turn comes Js and I feel that I have to start putting money in now so I bet .50 into 1.22 and see villain raise me 3x+. What would you do here in this spot?
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Imo the range you assigned to defend pre is a little to whide....
Q8s/J8s the onegappers, Q9o, JTo and maybe even like KTo/ATo seem a little thin to me.
However: I like your check oop OTF as a lot of hands in our range (KQ/KJ/PP) are not willing to go for three streets and most Ax will go for value anyways.
I guess there is no real option beside calling turn as Villain doesnt repp too much imo. Why should he checkback 33/AJ OTF or raise JJ/AJ OTT?
Your combo sucks quite a bit as we block some KTss/KQss that could take this line. But vs an unknown player there is not too much we can do beside calling turn and most rivers.
I guess T or Q might suck a bit as Villain runs out of bluffs a bit then....Still calling i guess :)
1) I need to size up those BB 3B's more. It's only 4x and closer to 5x here would be closer to optimal, no?
2) If we're calling turn and most rivers, would it be a mistake to shove over BTN on the turn and get the money in now? If so, why? Is it negligible between call, call and gii on the turn?
1) Everything between 4x and 5x looks good to me. Going a bit bigger oop (and slightly deepr) is rarely a mistake.
2) Its definetly a mistake to shove turn imo; esp with your spades. I expect to get 2 streets from weaker Ax anyways given this line and it would be a disaster to make him fold like 78ss or QT as these hands are drawing dead and might go banas here (but fold vs a shove).
Therefore Villain is heavilly polarizing here, i would stick to call/call. There is still a chance that we are beat
I assume this is Ignition since it is Anonymous? Never folding. Just bet call turn and evaluate rivers. In pool, buttons defend here close to 55% of the time (mix of 4b/call). Your range seems reasonable, could be a touch loose. He will have JJ/33 here along with a slew of worse aces. Blocking the flush draw kind of sucks but pool is quite passive with FD's on paired boards anyway so I would weight this turn move more towards value (trips+).
Thank you very much for the comments, guys. Here we go:
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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
SB ($27.78) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HERO ($5.99) [VPIP: 23.4% | PFR: 16.6% | AGG: 32.6% | Flop Agg: 34.8% | Turn Agg: 37.6% | River Agg: 18.9% | 3-Bet: 5.1% | Fold to 3-Bet: 67.4% | 4-Bet: 14% | Hands: 1776]
UTG ($2.39) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
HJ ($9.84) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
CO ($5) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 1]
BTN ($5.79) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 100% | AGG: 33.3% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
Dealt to Hero: Ks As
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.15, SB Folds, HERO Raises To $0.60, BTN Calls $0.45
Hero SPR on Flop: [4.25 effective]
Flop ($1.22): Ad 3s Ah
HERO Checks, BTN Checks
Turn ($1.22): Ad 3s Ah Js
HERO Bets $0.50 (Rem. Stack: $4.89), BTN Raises To $1.58 (Rem. Stack: $3.61), HERO Raises To $5.39 (allin), BTN Calls $3.61 (allin)
River ($11.80): Ad 3s Ah Js 9h
BTN shows: Jd Jh
BTN wins: $11.02
Worst hand that I've played in this pool all month and that's why I wanted to post it. I feel that it's cringe worthy, to be honest so I wanted to be responsible for it, go over it, and learn from it. And yes, this is Ignition 5nlz.
Yeah, I wouldn't sweat this. I think, when we check flop, that will be better off bet/calling the turn and check/calling rivers. Iggy pool's #1 leak is passivity, however, they will play all trips aggressively on the turn due to FD being present. We get to river and I think their trips/boat combos are going to be about 50/50 so that really leaves us with no other choice than to call down.
I will say this, I am quite confident that a solver is just going to bet range here on this flop. So, if we chose the aggressive approach here on the flop, I am just going bet/bet/bet.
HawksWin I need to sweat it because this is how things begin. This was a really sloppy play for a stack + and I should have played it better. I knew to call turn and somehow I found the all in button which hasn't been happening lately. Lesson well learned from this one, though.
See, that's the problem with a hand like the one above: Everything is going along well in my graph (to say the least) and then I get myself stacked like that. It's not the cards or the runout...it's how I played the hand. I didn't take my time and do my mental steps. I just shoved. I'm tired, playing a lot, moving up and down over a few different micro stakes, etc...but those are all excuses. This was a bad hand.
edit: That graph's actually missing some hands but they were from two winning sessions, anyway. My point still stands. This was a postflop blunder.
Dude
Dont be harsh to yourself. This was a bad setup. And even though shoving turn is not the max EV line imo, its far away from a blunder.
Still possible that a random anonymous player snaps you off here with A7o.
Was simply a cooler.
Gatta bet this flop, gatta call the turn
I would lean towards c-betting range (1/4,1/3) on the flop but checking at least at some frequency is most definitely ok.
As far as calling your play a blunder I totally disagree with you. It's true, your shove on the turn might not have been the most beautiful/+EV play there. But overall this was nothing but a cooler.
Don't blame yourself because someone hit a 2-outer against the top of your range.
Range bet that flop.
You got a huge range advantage, you got good nut advantage. juts bet everything for a small sizing there and he's going to have a difficult time defending. If you range bet he can't go around folding any A or you'll be printing money with your bluffs so your hand will get paid.
You say your hand would be face up but your hand is only face up if you make it so, just think about it, if when you do that with a strong Ax the hand will be "face-up" and he will overfold his range, just bet everything. One of 2 things happens, either you print on those spots with "bluffs" or hand is no longer face-up and you'll get paid with strong hands. This is solver approved.
(disclaimer: only on situations like these where you got a huge range advantage)
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